Post by cooksferry on Sept 21, 2017 8:07:45 GMT 12
Anyone any experience with this speaker. My Monitor Audio speakers are the last thing to come up for possible replacement in my set up and there's a temptation to treat down a different path.
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Post by Owen Y on Sept 21, 2017 8:33:15 GMT 12
Well that WOULD be a different path - why does this high-sensitivity, horn-loaded design appeal? (If you find these sonically attractive, I suspect that the dynamics & 'immediacy' would resemble 'live' music a lot more than most spkrs.)
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Post by cooksferry on Sept 21, 2017 9:16:28 GMT 12
There are itches that just have to be scratched Owen and maybe time to head into the deep, dark unknown. There's always been some thing about the horn design that has appealed and if I had the room(and Money) there'd probably be a big pair in residence. Also had a long standing a desire to own a pr of Sonus Faber speakers at some stage.
Our local hifi shop has a pair Heresys in stock and I may try and get a home demo. Bit reluctant to buy any speaker without that.
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Post by Owen Y on Sept 21, 2017 9:33:42 GMT 12
Yes, home demo - looking forward to your impressions. (Disclosure: I am a bit of a horn lskpr devotee )
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Post by cartridge on Sept 21, 2017 22:48:21 GMT 12
Their ability to replicate a concert is what makes them so enjoyable. They certainly sound vastly different from the Klipsch speakers you'll find in HN.
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Post by cooksferry on Sept 22, 2017 12:20:05 GMT 12
Their ability to replicate a concert is what makes them so enjoyable. They certainly sound vastly different from the Klipsch speakers you'll find in HN. You have some? If so welcome any feedback . The reviews online are generally quite positive although everyone seems to note a lack of depth in the bass. In my very small space that may not be an issue. Going for an in store try out tomorrow and if I'm impressed enough will get them home in a week or so when I have a few days AL for a proper audition.
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Post by cooksferry on Sept 23, 2017 19:27:02 GMT 12
Had a not entirely satisfactory listen to the Heresys this morning. Speakers were not ideally placed, forced to be either too close or too far away by a large display table and they were hooked up with what looked like basic electrical wire. However there was enough there to encourage me to arrange for a home audition in a couple of weeks . Not sure what else to look at if the Klipsch dont cut it without taking a trip to Christchurch which of course looses the home audition.
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Post by Owen Y on Sept 25, 2017 9:10:15 GMT 12
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Post by guitardude on Sept 25, 2017 9:43:04 GMT 12
Thats the eternal dilemma with regard to home auditions these days i'm afraid. Thats a good suggestion of Owens for a high sensitivity design, triangle would be another option there. (Dont know who does them though ?).I've a small pair of triangles you are welcome to try if you liked ? I keep them as spares in the event of my ESL57 suddenly expiring...
Yes as you can see despite having similar tastes in music my speakers have evolved in a completely different direction.
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Post by michaelw on Sept 25, 2017 10:30:29 GMT 12
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Post by cooksferry on Sept 25, 2017 11:04:14 GMT 12
Thanks for the follow up gentlemen, appreciated. I should note that I would really like to keep any purchase under $5000 tops which unfortunately counts out some of the more exotic and desirable speakers. What I'm looking for is some thing a bit different from the usual speaker box , not fussy about placement(has to go close to a wall) , sounds good at moderate volumes and preferably bi wire able so I dont have to get new cables.
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Post by foveaux on Sept 25, 2017 14:29:48 GMT 12
Awwww mate...those Shahinian Obelisks would've done you beautifully...take solace, they weren't are bi-wireable
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Post by cooksferry on Sept 25, 2017 14:47:16 GMT 12
Awwww mate...those Shahinian Obelisks would've done you beautifully...take solace, they weren't are bi-wireable I know where there's a set of 2nd hand SHAHINIAN compass speakers. Not sure how they'd work against the wall in my room.
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Post by foveaux on Sept 25, 2017 14:57:31 GMT 12
Nah...Ive heard Compasses. Nice enough, but backwards c.f. your MAs. You'd need Arcs or Obelisks to go better if Shah. :-)
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Post by cooksferry on Sept 25, 2017 15:16:45 GMT 12
Just kidnap your Sanders instead.
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Post by guitardude on Sept 25, 2017 15:58:50 GMT 12
Id agree with MW about the Klipschs, not ultimately to my taste either but great fun on occasion. Obelisks i've heard sounding very good, yet to hear a pair of arc's id pay money for. Just a comment regarding budget for the OP. I'm assuming that this will be the pair of speakers to see you out, so you might as well get something you really like or have always wanted. Have you tried anything english in the BBC vein ?
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Post by cooksferry on Sept 25, 2017 19:42:19 GMT 12
Id agree with MW about the Klipschs, not ultimately to my taste either but great fun on occasion. Obelisks i've heard sounding very good, yet to hear a pair of arc's id pay money for. Just a comment regarding budget for the OP. I'm assuming that this will be the pair of speakers to see you out, so you might as well get something you really like or have always wanted. Have you tried anything english in the BBC vein ? Sadly my speaker experience is extremely limited. Besides my current Monitor Audio set the only others I've had that would be remotely classed as audiophile was some old B&W DM220. Rather problematic getting a home demo down here. Besides the Klipsch our local dealer has some small stand mounts, a pair of entry Focal floor standers and some Proac 200 that have sat in store for many months. Far too big for my room so not remotely interested in them. I was looking at something in the Spendor line at one time but the models that were within my parameters might be getting to be a difficult load for my amp. Definitely want floor standers rather than mucking about with stands.
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Post by cooksferry on Sept 26, 2017 4:00:29 GMT 12
Hunting around this morning another possible option may be the TANNOY Revolution XT6F or the bigger XT8F.
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Post by Owen Y on Sept 26, 2017 9:21:06 GMT 12
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Post by cooksferry on Sept 26, 2017 9:56:37 GMT 12
Yes, they have a few very good reviews Owen. Wont be able to get a home demo but they look like they could be worth a blind punt. I'll see how the home demo goes with the Klipsch first but the Tannoy may be a safer option.
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Post by michaelw on Sept 26, 2017 10:39:25 GMT 12
hi cooks, could you remind those with failing memories, of your room dimensions, accompanying system etc.
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Post by cooksferry on Sept 26, 2017 10:57:19 GMT 12
hi cooks, could you remind those with failing memories, of your room dimensions, accompanying system etc. A Gnats whisper long and a piss pot wide Not entirely certain Michael but I'd say around 3 x 2.2 metres give or take. Of course it's jammed with lp and cr racks , a tv etc. main system is Project RPM10(With Wand arm), Project RS Phono stage, Mapletree mono/stereo switch and line router to Melody SP9R amp. For digital there's a Cambridge 752BD. darklantern.proboards.com/thread/51/changethe 4th photo gives some idea. My chair is in the bottom corner. Looking at the photo I might be out in my dimensions. Will have a measure up at lunch time.
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Post by Owen Y on Sept 26, 2017 11:30:22 GMT 12
Can you possibly get the Klipsches & the Tannoys into the same listening room (ie same system) somewhere?
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Post by cooksferry on Sept 26, 2017 11:32:48 GMT 12
Can you possibly get the Klipsches & the Tannoys into the same listening room (ie same system) somewhere? Not likely Owen. Tannoy's in Auckland and out of stock till mid November. Plenty of time to mull things over.
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Post by michaelw on Sept 26, 2017 12:15:08 GMT 12
thx for the memory jog ! i was using my phone to browse this morning and trying to find old threads and keep the present page open was too much for me lol tight space but those klipschs might just work... if not, drink that nice bottle of liquid amber i see on the floor. ps any sonus faber dealers near you ? though i suspect they may be different enough from the MAs.
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Post by cooksferry on Sept 26, 2017 13:17:55 GMT 12
Did a measure up at lunch time. Bare room is 4m x 3m but once all the clutter gets taken in the size reduces quite a bit. I used to face the speakers length way down the room but since I've added the TV I'm really locked into my current across the room . I need a screen not just for movies but to navigate a multitude of BR and DVd audio discs I've accumulated. My speakers , centre to centre are 1.7m apart and that's really about as far as I can get them without hitting the amp one side and the vinyl racks the other. My seating position from the speakers is 1.9m and I have almost no side movement left and no rear. Just to perhaps add to the bad news it's a pitched ceiling from about 9' centre to about 7.5 at the sides.
You're correct Michael, the amber fluid is a great aid to better sound some days.
Nearest Sonus Faber dealer is still Totally Wired in Dn but they no longer have a physical store, just online. Nearest place for a demo is probably Soundline which is about a 16 hour return trip.Unfortunately the SF I've lusted after are way out of my price range .
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Post by guitardude on Sept 26, 2017 19:09:08 GMT 12
Hi cooks,
That room is about the same size as my old music room here. My thoughts are that a pair of monkey coffins firing across the room would work well. I've run celestion SL600 and my triangles in that room in that configuration and they both worked well. Have also had much experience with the Proacs you mention in a previous larger room and they worked very well. I think the problem you will have with a floorstander in that space is that they will overpower the room, its the reason I sold my Duntechs to Heathen, the room was just too small. Ditto for the Magneplanars. Yes you will have to get stands. Incidentally the ESL57 work well in smaller rooms .
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Post by cooksferry on Sept 27, 2017 6:52:17 GMT 12
Occasionally I've considered stand mounts but in the end I think floor mounted is less shagging about and having the extra driver that many floor mounts have gives enough to the lower end that a sub doesn't need to come into consideration. Interestingly my Melody amp does have a set of dedicated RCA out for a sub. I know my current speakers can easily over power the room but I also like the fact that from time to time I can walk along the ragged edge and get bass into my chest and feel the vibrations in the walls. I've been taking very tiny steps along this particular upgrade path for some time and I've found throwing things out into a public forum actually generates some motivation. My 2nd tone arm, case in point.
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Post by guitardude on Sept 27, 2017 10:01:36 GMT 12
Well with those requirements I think we can rule out Electrostatics and most panels. My advice would still be to consider standmounts: Do you have anyone local with a pair you could borrow to see how they go in your room ? You probably wont get the wall moving trouser flapping bass you are after but you may find that they give you an increase in clarity air and definition. In short more "there" for the type of music you listen to. Just IMO of course and YMMV.
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Post by cooksferry on Sept 28, 2017 6:12:55 GMT 12
Hi cooks, Have also had much experience with the Proacs you mention in a previous larger room and they worked very well. Was that the Studio 200 you had? The pair in my local shop have been there for some time and when I was there a couple of weeks ago the young man on duty was quite disparaging of them From memory when he first got them in their price was some where around $2000.
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