Post by Citroen on Jan 3, 2019 13:44:32 GMT 12
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Post by Owen Y on Jan 4, 2019 13:55:53 GMT 12
Citroen - that Denon/Fremaux/Tokyo MSO disc is unusual to me, but the Perlman Bruch/Mendelssohn is regarded as a biggie. I like the look of the Shostakovich Decca LP too although I've no knowledge of the Weller Quartet. Fitzwilliam Q did the Shostakovich Q's on Decca O-Lyre.
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Post by michaelw on Jan 4, 2019 14:38:14 GMT 12
nice score !
mercuries us poressings ?
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Post by Citroen on Jan 4, 2019 17:07:59 GMT 12
Citroen - that Denon/Fremaux/Tokyo MSO disc is unusual to me, but the Perlman Bruch/Mendelssohn is regarded as a biggie. I like the look of the Shostakovich Decca LP too although I've no knowledge of the Weller Quartet. Fitzwilliam Q did the Shostakovich Q's on Decca O-Lyre. The Perlman sounds fantastic, although the cover is rather uninspiring/very dated looking The Shostakovich Decca is a wonderful performance, sounds stunning in mono. Apparently Shostakovich wrote the 10th specifically for the Weller Quartet to play. I really only know the Borodins as a cycle.
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Post by Citroen on Jan 4, 2019 17:11:41 GMT 12
nice score ! mercuries us poressings ? The deep cut one, yes The Saint-Saens has the US labelling but the cover is all NZ "Lithoed in New Zealand", "Copyright record - all rights reserved - Pye Limited, Auckland", so NZ pressed/
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Post by michaelw on Jan 4, 2019 17:45:06 GMT 12
what is "deep cut " ?
haven't heard that term used on mercuries before ...
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Post by Citroen on Jan 4, 2019 18:47:07 GMT 12
what is "deep cut " ? haven't heard that term used on mercuries before ... The label has a deep cut groove in the label
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Post by Citroen on Jan 4, 2019 19:08:30 GMT 12
Just noticed the possible NZ pressed MLP has a deep cut groove as well. But closer to the spindle
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Post by michaelw on Jan 4, 2019 19:26:17 GMT 12
some mercuries have no cut ? i must check mine...
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Post by Citroen on Jan 4, 2019 19:31:41 GMT 12
Good question. My MLP Collectors Editions boxset 1 only has the smaller inner groove cut, but of a much finer/smaller groove than the original Saint-Saens pictured above Boxset 2 (which has the Saint-Saens) has no groove at all.
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Post by michaelw on Jan 5, 2019 14:20:52 GMT 12
my speakers corner russian box has no indentation. various us/nz pressings have large and small deep groove, shallow groove, no groove and one even has a slightly raised inner plateau !
does the cut mean anything ?
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Post by Citroen on Jan 5, 2019 15:19:21 GMT 12
A quick google tells me the deep groove is caused by early pressing machines, possibly altered 78rpm presses used for 12 inches? Something to do with how the vinyl puck is kept in place?
So deep groove only indicates that its old. Not limited to MLP, could be any label I suppose. Early Blue Notes have them too.
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Post by Citroen on Jan 5, 2019 15:23:08 GMT 12
londonjazzcollector.wordpress.com/record-labels-guide/labelography-2/blue-note-deep-groove/Blue Note vinyl: the deep groove Last Updated: August 2, 2017
The groove-type found on a Blue Note record offers a useful indication of the probable date of manufacture, and can help confirm or discount the status of a particular copy being an “original pressing”.
All Blue Note records manufactured in the 1950s and early 1960 have a deep groove on both sides of the label central area – a circular depression caused by the metal die used to hold pressing stampers in place. (This includes both first and subsequent re-pressings in that period)
In the latter part of 1960, new dies were introduced at the Plastylite pressing plant which behind left merely a single “step” – not a deep groove. The old DG and new non-DG dies were functionally interchangeable and coexisted for some four years, until the last of the old deep groove dies finally became worn out and discarded. All pressings thereafter were “no deep groove”.
During the transitional four years, original pressings appeared with every combination of die types: both DG, both non-DG, and DG only one side or the other. Various collector theories have been offered, about the use of old dies for re-pressings, new dies for new original pressings, but more likely it was simply arbitrary and random choice by the press operator. Nevertheless many original pressing have an historical established pattern.
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Post by sub on Jan 8, 2019 15:14:53 GMT 12
Just returned home to the Far North after my annual trip to Tauranga to stay with my daughter. I did some op shop shopping on the way down and back. Tauranga op shops had nothing to offer! On way down stayed two nights in Auckland and with a couple of hours to spare I visited op shops in Mt Eden (nothing of interest found) and in Dominion Rd, where I scored Clannard,- Macalla Clannard - Legend, both near mint. Then to Sandringham Rd, where I scored Gilbert O’SullIvan - Gilbert O’Sullivan Kiri Te Kanawa - Mozart concert arias. The next day travelled through Morrinsville and Matamata, and bought Van Morrison- Immaculate Speech of the Heart Gerry Rafferty - night owl Jethro Tull, - living in the past. A double hard cover album, the booklet needs repair, but the discs look ok and should respond well to an ultrasonic clean. Elvis -, Rock’n On, a double album, nice and tidy. Carole King - rhymes and reasons Meadowlark Records Sampler Glen Gould - - plays Bach, The English Suites Then on the way home stopped at Wellsford and found The Beatles Concerto, Royal Liverpool Philharmic Orchestra/Goodwin, produced by George Martin Duke Ellington & his Orchestra - concert in the Virgin Islands Peggy Lee - I Like Men, an English world record club pressing. Nothing over $2, several only $1, and one was .50c! All carefully checked before purchase and shou,d perform well once cleaned. qqqqqq
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Post by sub on Mar 29, 2019 9:51:42 GMT 12
An occasional good score comes my way. Stopped at my local spca op shop yesterday. They don’t usually have LPs in stock, yesterday there were about 8, and I bought three. The one that stands out is Bach, the four orchestral suites/academy of st Martin-in-the-fields/Marriner. Two LP gatefold EMI 27 0310 3, direct metal mastering, pressed in Germany, 1985. Cost $1, records look like they have never been played and cover is near mint. Discogs seller’s have it from $20 upwards, and an eBay seller lists one for $40 and describes it as rare. The others were - Traumerein am Kamin, DG Favorit 2535 652, which appear to be excerpts from favourite classical orchestral pieces. German pressing. Also looks unplayed. Peter Blakeley, Harry’s Cafe de Wheels, 1989 Capitol ST790412, excellent condition, small amount of wear on cover, Aus pressing.
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Post by michaelw on Mar 29, 2019 10:23:06 GMT 12
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Post by sub on May 19, 2019 9:24:08 GMT 12
Just back from one of my Tauranga trips, calling into op shops along the way. Pickings are getting really slim! Several places no longer selling LPs. Scored a mint Shostakovich 10th Symph, Karajan, Berlin PO on DGG, and albums by Doobie Brothers and Bread - both appear undamaged but will need a good clean
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Post by sub on Jun 6, 2019 12:05:15 GMT 12
Visited Whangarei yesterday. Stopped in Gary Morrison’s home town, Hikurangi, for lunch at The Miners Rest. Found a 2nd hand shop two doors down, most of their LPs were junk, but scored a very nice Readers Digest box set, of Million Sellers Hits. Eight LPs, they have never been played! Media and covers mint, and box close to mint except for a rub on one corner. Cost $5 - a bargain. Record 6 titled Australasian Gold, featuring NZ and Aus artists, including Split Enz, Dragon, Hello Sailor. Always found RD records really well pressed and never turn down the opportunity to purchase if the subject material is to my taste and price is right. On a tight schedule so only time to visit one op shop in Whangarei, scored Frank Sinatra, Old Blue Eyes Is Back; Acker Bilk, Stranger on the Shore, a USA pressing on Alco label; Ravel, Bolero etc, on Columbia Master Series, conducted by Bernstein - have several ,other versions, but not this one. Cost, .20c each, all very clean and tidy.
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Post by Citroen on Aug 10, 2019 19:42:33 GMT 12
For $2 cf Vincent de Paul's
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Post by michaelw on Aug 10, 2019 23:59:19 GMT 12
i've got that handel too, in a world record club edition nothing in the shops down here except james last, kamahl and harry secombe !
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Post by sub on Aug 11, 2019 10:31:24 GMT 12
Nice score, Cliff! Have the same Barenboim lp, haven’t played it for at least 25 yrs! Have several versions of the Handel waterworks, as well as fireworks.
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Post by Citroen on Aug 11, 2019 13:23:59 GMT 12
They're all WRC releases, which I don't mind at all.
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Post by sub on Sept 10, 2019 11:43:36 GMT 12
Among my recent op shop finds, $2 each - All in near mint condition - the Rubinstein and Kennedy covers look mint as well. As Graham has said in another post here, 2nd hand Classic LPs are often very lightly played - sometimes not played at all. Discogs rate three of the albums as not worth a lot. The Rubinstein I have is a Canadian pressing from 1962 and according to discogs is on sale from $11 and is more valuable than USA pressed copies. However, the London issue CS 6202, Furina and Halffter, Rapsodias Sinfonia & Portuguesa do not appear to be listed on discogs. I found an old auction listing from 2009, where that album sold for $40 US. Have all been cleaned on my US cleaning machine and am waiting for an opportunity to have a listen. My phono pre has just died, so will have to find one of my old amps stored away in the shed before I can play them. Both are middle of the range Denon amps so will not expect perfection!
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Post by Citroen on Nov 6, 2019 21:35:19 GMT 12
At $2 each I couldn't resist, even if I already have it.
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Post by Owen Y on Nov 7, 2019 8:50:58 GMT 12
Paid too much
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Post by Citroen on Nov 7, 2019 15:13:34 GMT 12
Been giving these and others a US clean. I haven't gone to the filter step yet and that is evident by the brown residue in the tank from many decades of crud.
The Fritz Reiner 5th is a tour de force, and although a bit of background noise, a few ticks every now and then, the sound is really good, great 50's Living Stereo quality.
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Post by Dom on Nov 9, 2019 16:22:54 GMT 12
The Fritz Reiner 5th is a tour de force, and although a bit of background noise, a few ticks every now and then, the sound is really good, great 50's Living Stereo quality.
I may have to give mine another spin. I found it to be such a fast performance that I completely ruined the gnocchi I was making. They turned to glue and I had to throw everything out. Not happy. Should have gone for Strauss waltzes.
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Post by Owen Y on Nov 9, 2019 16:44:36 GMT 12
Haha, stay away from the Polkas then
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Post by michaelw on Nov 10, 2019 19:03:05 GMT 12
note for slow cookers, also avoid Reiner's William tell overture, it is frenetic +++.
Citroen Fleetwood Mac greatest hits is an excellent sounding compilation.
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Post by sub on Nov 13, 2019 15:28:25 GMT 12
Have had a bit of a splurge at our local hospice shop this month - they had three boxes of fresh stock. Recently bought 17 LPs, waiting in the shed for cleaning. Yesterday found at $2 each - The Sam Wooding album, UK pressing on Biograph label, seems to a bit of a find, cheapest on discogs is $20; the Living Presence and Living Stereo albums look mint but are not particularly rare - be interesting to see how Lanza (a USA pressing) compares to Pavarotti; the Vivaldi concertos for guitar look interesting, on Hispavox label.
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