It should go on that SP10 shouldn't it?

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Would go nicely with my KD600 too.....

Aug 18, 2017 9:16:54 GMT 12 Owen Y said:

It should go on that SP10 shouldn't it?

eagerly awaiting that !

Some very nice tables. How do you get on for parts if something dies?

Aug 18, 2017 11:56:02 GMT 12 cooksferry said:

Some very nice tables. How do you get on for parts if something dies?

There is usually someone around who can fix things if they break!  I bought my Yamaha YP-D9 from Bruce at Stereoscope a bit over a year ago.  He had acquired it with speed control problems, fixed it up and put it on the market.  I spotted it on his shelf when I collected an amp he had been working on for me.  Fell in lust with it, researched it on line, went back and bought it.

The photo on my first post above was taken not long after I bought it, so here is a new photo showing it now has a Jelco H-28 Headshell fitted with the DL-103R.  Having two Headshells will make swapping carts in and out much easier.


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Aug 18, 2017 9:29:16 GMT 12 guitardude said:

Would go nicely with my KD600 too.....

Could drop in nicely

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many of the old tables use discrete components which can repaired.

the trick is finding a repairer with the requisite skills.

see pix of my sp10 at gennlab

www.gennlab.com/technics_sp10mk2.html

later models like the sp15 crammed all the essentials onto bespoke ICs.
if these fail you have a turntable shaped paperweight.

Bloody hell Michael, that's a big bucket of parts to spin an lp.

Now that's one good looking SP10!

Aug 18, 2017 12:53:24 GMT 12 cooksferry said:

Bloody hell Michael, that's a big bucket of parts to spin an lp.

big contrast to a clockwork motor and rubber band



there's so many guys like artisan fidelity above, rebuilding classic DDs that you need a scorecard to keep track.

Have heard a few nightmare stories over the years of these things not being able to be repaired. Luckily most of them seem to be fairly well made and reliable. Only issue I've had myself was with a Kenwood KD5100 where the auto return arm refused to function properly. Not a great deal to go wrong on a belt drive by comparison...

I think Michael's has only needed to be repaired twice since he got it!

Not exactly sure that is a recommendation, how long has he had it ? My Gyro is 36 years old and hasn't failed me once. Kenwood is probably much the same vintage but I bought it second hand, had it maybe 10 years: no faults thus far, though to be honest it only gets occasional use. I wouldn't be expecting good quality gear to fail as long as it is reasonably cared for and serviced appropriately.

Yeah, I think I actually dodged a bullet with that one, stress wise.

But on the other hand it was sold for a very very good price, so even with repair costs I'm sure it still make for a wonderful TT that will now last for decades to come.

Probably like houses in Auckland: If you think you paid too much for it, wait a couple of weeks and it will look like a Bargain.

Analogy doesn't work in this case as Michael definitely didn't pay too much for it.

dunno about that...
the raw numbers are scary.
like running an exotic sports car.

Aug 18, 2017 11:56:02 GMT 12 cooksferry said:

Some very nice tables. How do you get on for parts if something dies?

This is can be a significant issue.
Tables like the SP10 & Kenwood L-07D have exceedingly complex servo speed control circuits.
The L-07D, in particular, is prone to dying electronics, from what I have seen - although there was at least one expert restorer in USA to whom many have sent their L-07D controller unit - unfortunately that webpage (Unofficial Kenwood L-07D Direct Drive Turntable) appears to have gone?

(One of the reasons I think why the above L-07D tonearm became an orphan )

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Aug 18, 2017 15:13:18 GMT 12 Citroen said:

I think Michael's has only needed to be repaired twice since he got it!

My SP25 continues to spin nicely despite being shunted around various flats in my Uni days, moving around NZ and to oz and back, never had to go near a Tech  .. ( touch wood)..

and the ancient Akai AP206C here.. for swmbo use as it auto returns.. has never missed a beat either.

Never play Leapfrog with a Unicorn.

That SP25 was a very good looker, I reckon.
Arguably the prettiest Technics DD...

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sp25's seem to be quite rare comapred to sp10, sp15.

last one i saw on tm was back in 2015.

iirc it sold for around $1800

As I recall, SP15/SP25 look identical.

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sp15 had electronic pitch control with fancier digital readout.

scan from 1979 technics catalogue




also found this little gem...

harry pearson on the sp10 from tas #4 1974 !

Aug 18, 2017 21:40:58 GMT 12 michaelw said:

sp25's seem to be quite rare comapred to sp10, sp15.

last one i saw on tm was back in 2015.

iirc it sold for around $1800

I would absolutely pay that for an SP25 - what a marvel of design they are to behold.

I'm very happy with what I have at present and don't feel the need to chase this dragon right to the end - but a decent DD and preferably a Technics will have to come into the picture to compliment and contrast my current belt drive at some stage. Awesome tables for the coin.

Aug 17, 2017 17:53:23 GMT 12 Citroen said:

Give me your best 50 lps and its all yours!

I only own 50 records and they're all Peter, Paul & Mary albums but you're quite welcome to them. You sir, have yourself a deal.

Aug 19, 2017 12:07:49 GMT 12 @johnnyheathen said:

Aug 18, 2017 21:40:58 GMT 12 michaelw said:

sp25's seem to be quite rare comapred to sp10, sp15.

last one i saw on tm was back in 2015.

iirc it sold for around $1800

I would absolutely pay that for an SP25 - what a marvel of design they are to behold.

I'm very happy with what I have at present and don't feel the need to chase this dragon right to the end - but a decent DD and preferably a Technics will have to come into the picture to compliment and contrast my current belt drive at some stage. Awesome tables for the coin.

Lot of good things said about the Pioneer PLX-1000, or the cheaper Reloop equivalent, based on the same Hanpin design.

Aug 19, 2017 12:09:32 GMT 12 @johnnyheathen said:

Aug 17, 2017 17:53:23 GMT 12 Citroen said:

Give me your best 50 lps and its all yours!

I only own 50 records and they're all Peter, Paul & Mary albums but you're quite welcome to them. You sir, have yourself a deal.

Peter Tosh, Paul Simon and Mary J Blige? Sure.

psshhhhh

peter, paul and mary are folk gods !

Thought i would post my favorite DD turntable of all time amd one day i might be lucky enough to own

The legendry Denon DP-100m

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Aug 19, 2017 11:12:33 GMT 12 michaelw said:

sp15 had electronic pitch control with fancier digital readout.

scan from 1979 technics catalogue




also found this little gem...

harry pearson on the sp10 from tas #4 1974 !

And 78 RPM...

Never play Leapfrog with a Unicorn.