Post by Owen Y on Sept 27, 2019 11:28:30 GMT 12
Wow... Herb Reichert - STEREOPHILE 26 Sept 2019: " What makes the Schiit Audio Aegir so special is how it generates class-D-like force and clarity plus the information-dense refinements of class-A. And how, at $799, it could dare to sound as trippy and lifelike as it does.
The Aegir struck me as a design that will withstand and even rejoice in the scrutiny of time...Unless you need more power or have an uncontrollable urge to spend more money, I can think of no arguments against Schiit's innovative Aegir. " From the SCHIIT Aegir webapge: " Aegir provides 20W into 8 ohms, doubling to 40W into 4 ohms. Run mono, and you’ll see 80W into 8 ohms. Best of all, Continuity ensures you see Class-A-like performance at all these power outputs. " US$799. Warranty: 5 years, 15-day money-back guarantee.  
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Post by michaelw on Sept 27, 2019 14:29:52 GMT 12
and made in usa.
how do they keep the price reasonable ?
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Post by Owen Y on Sept 30, 2019 11:09:09 GMT 12
Direct sales. Large qty ordering/manufacture. Smart design. Modest power output. Other?
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Post by cartridgeguyonline on Oct 2, 2019 14:46:21 GMT 12
I see theres a reseller in Melbourne now ? Anyone here had any dealings with either of them ?
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Post by Citroen on Oct 2, 2019 15:10:35 GMT 12
Do you mean Addicted to Audio? If so, I tried to buy something from them but they told me that they don't ship to NZ.
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Post by cartridgeguyonline on Oct 2, 2019 15:22:30 GMT 12
Thats the guys. Wonder why that is, there isnt a NZ distributor is there ?
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Post by Citroen on Oct 2, 2019 15:23:47 GMT 12
I bought my Valhalla direct from them
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Post by Owen Y on Oct 2, 2019 16:58:41 GMT 12
Is there any advantage buying this Schiit through a 'reseller'?
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Post by cartridgeguyonline on Oct 2, 2019 17:11:38 GMT 12
I didnt get that far Owen, and if they wont ship to NZ then its probably a moot point. Do they ping you with GST and import duties from aussie ?
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Post by Citroen on Oct 2, 2019 17:13:58 GMT 12
They don't ship from OZ, so import duties and GST is irrelevant
If ordering direct then GST and import duties apply for any orders over the current threshold.
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Post by Owen Y on Oct 2, 2019 18:58:49 GMT 12
I'd expect that GST would apply similarly from Oz or anywhere outside of NZ? If the manufacturer is offering Direct Sales, then I'd expect that it would be best to communicate direct with them.
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Post by tonyd on Oct 3, 2019 7:46:46 GMT 12
They don't ship from OZ, so import duties and GST is irrelevant If ordering direct then GST and import duties apply for any orders over the current threshold. Addicted told me a couple of days ago: 'We unfortunately don't ship from our Australian website to NZ but we have an NZ website coming very soon which will be able to help with your needs!'.
Decided to order Aegir direct from Schiit.
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Post by Citroen on Oct 3, 2019 9:16:16 GMT 12
Addicted also announced in June last year that they were opening a shop in Auckland...  But a website has been reserved addictedtoaudio.co.nz/
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Post by Owen Y on Oct 4, 2019 9:08:44 GMT 12
Decided to order Aegir direct from Schiit. Looking forward to any comments and/or user-impressions in due course.
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Post by tonyd on Oct 5, 2019 16:50:21 GMT 12
Of course! btw, notified by Schiit that the package had shipped, six hours later the local Fedex phoned me to arrange payment of the the pre-calculated import charges. Was rather impressed by the efficiency.
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Post by michaelw on Oct 9, 2019 10:13:29 GMT 12
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Post by Owen Y on Oct 9, 2019 13:39:20 GMT 12
I am reminded of the person who once said that, "you can measure all you like but measurements ain't going to discern much difference between a school cafeteria lunch & a Michelin starred restaurant."  BTW what Scientific and/or Reviewer credentials does Audio Science Review have?
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Post by michaelw on Oct 9, 2019 15:06:31 GMT 12
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Post by garym on Oct 9, 2019 16:38:15 GMT 12
I am reminded of the person who once said that, "you can measure all you like but measurements ain't going to discern much difference between a school cafeteria lunch & a Michelin starred restaurant." BTW what Scientific and/or Reviewer credentials does Audio Science Review have? His reviews are purely technical. They don't give any clues as to how products sound, in fact he is a total objectivist. That aside, his measurement regime is excellent and his tools of trade are the Reference for the industry. The same stuff John Atkinson uses at Stereophile. He seems very competent. This amp is not a bad result for Schitt. He has reviewed a few of their DACs and they have all had fairly serious technical faults. Have a look at his reviews of AV receiver performance. Quite an eye opener.
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Post by Owen Y on Oct 9, 2019 17:01:13 GMT 12
Thanks garym. Could be useful then, if some subjective comments accompanied the measurements - if for no other reason than to weigh the usefulness of the measurement philosophy. ie. If it measures good & sounds bad, then we're not measuring the right things. Or vice versa.
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Post by garym on Oct 9, 2019 18:19:46 GMT 12
Thanks garym. Could be useful then, if some subjective comments accompanied the measurements - if for no other reason than to weigh the usefulness of the measurement philosophy. ie. If it measures good & sounds bad, then we're not measuring the right things. Or vice versa. We're always measuring the right things, no question about that, but in my opinion, no one has yet come up with a foolproof way of connecting measurements to listening. I go by the rule that it should behave technically but after that it comes down to the experience of the designer to ensure it delivers sonically. Amir firmly believes that if it measures well it will deliver on all fronts. I know he is not right. But, if it is broken technically, chances are it might sound better if those issues were fixed.
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Post by foveaux on Oct 9, 2019 19:38:25 GMT 12
We're always measuring the right things, no question about that, but in my opinion, no one has yet come up with a foolproof way of connecting measurements to listening. I go by the rule that it should behave technically but after that it comes down to the experience of the designer to ensure it delivers sonically.Amir firmly believes that if it measures well it will deliver on all fronts. I know he is not right. But, if it is broken technically, chances are it might sound better if those issues were fixed. What you say Gary  Owen f.y.i. re: Lounge www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/review-and-measurements-of-lounge-lcr-mkiii-phono-amp.7244/ ...what a buggers muddle. I sympathise with the Lounge designer/builder for the attack on his livelihood, if nothing else. As you sensibly imply: trust your own ears.
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Post by Owen Y on Oct 9, 2019 19:57:41 GMT 12
Robert Morin, designer of LOUNGE AUDIO, is quite technically competent & capable of defending his products himself, see forum thread on that site - Review and Measurements of Lounge LCR MKIII Phono Amp(Sorry, I will get around to moving this discussion to the LOUINGE AUDIO LCR Phono thread - thanks for highlighting it for me.)
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Post by foveaux on Oct 9, 2019 20:10:14 GMT 12
Owen, To be clear, my ref. to a buggers muddle was the to'ing and fro'ing, incl. video clips, in the arguments on the merits or not of the Lounge on the audiosciencereview site
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Post by garym on Oct 9, 2019 20:36:44 GMT 12
I have no knowledge of this phono stage, but it is disurbing to see the designer state that he tweaks the riaa for other than accurate response. Doing what he says he does is really making it a tone control.
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Post by michaelw on Oct 9, 2019 20:53:05 GMT 12
haha that reminds me of the infamous stereophile carver challenge. bob carver remarked that he could make his amps sound like any other amp through his dubious "transfer function". stereophile got sucked in. the absolute sound called it a dog and pony show 
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Post by tonyd on Oct 10, 2019 7:30:53 GMT 12
Listening to the Aegir in a fairly small room, through 98dB speakers, this valve aficionado has so far been rather impressed. 
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Post by cartridge on Oct 10, 2019 10:43:49 GMT 12
Addicted also announced in June last year that they were opening a shop in Auckland... But a website has been reserved addictedtoaudio.co.nz/Re: Addicted to Audio - They were talking a big game a while ago about opening a shop... it all came to nothing and their initial press release on Stereonet mysteriously disappeared. Staff, rent and the general appetite for what they stock looks to be some hurdles that could not be overcome.
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Post by Gryffles on Oct 10, 2019 12:37:30 GMT 12
If anyone really wanted something from Addicted to Audio I can help via Sydney.
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Post by cartridgeguyonline on Oct 10, 2019 16:20:06 GMT 12
I think they are in Melbourne ? I travel to Melbourne somewhat regularly as my eldest boy lives there, but unfortunately I get very easily distracted by all the record shops.
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