Post by Owen Y on Jun 1, 2017 16:44:15 GMT 12
Wow.....$24,000 for a tonearm. For that money I'd expect elimination of the skating force problem - this arm, because of its offset angle, still induces skating sideforce (instabilty) on the stylus. www.analogplanet.com/content/arthur-khoubesserians-statement-tonearm(A.K. is founder of Pink Triangle, The Funk Firm, always innovative ideas - deano1974 will you have one in stock soon?  )
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Post by michaelw on Jun 1, 2017 17:03:45 GMT 12
interesting to hear tangential tracking causes more problems than it solves  If i had $24k for a tonearm it would go to a sat
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Post by Owen Y on Jun 1, 2017 17:31:10 GMT 12
Linear trackers: In principle, I believe AK & Fremer are correct, but nothing is perfect (not even this tonearm). In reality, in practice, the problems of skating/antiskating are gross - compared with the (minor) drawbacks of an LT. I believe that the drawbacks of skating sideforces are at least as degrading as pivoted tonearm tracking error. IMHO. This belief is based on my listening - and I was surprised when I heard it. Zero tracking error is audible at the 3 distortion peaks across a record, outer, inner grooves & mid-record, of course. But my feeling is that elimination of skating allows to cartridge to extract more from the grooves throughout - it can be heard as simply as increased SPLs, 'louder' dynamics, without instability.
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Post by michaelw on Jun 1, 2017 18:17:46 GMT 12
it was hard not to wince at their "tail wagging dog" description.
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Post by Owen Y on Jun 1, 2017 18:55:26 GMT 12
I'm surprised if Mr Fremer really thinks this.... believes in this common misconception. Although the same could be said of a pivoted arm - that the groove accelerates the stylus sideways & up/down & the rest of the tonearm follows - either swinging (pivoted) or laterally (LTs). You could imagine therefore that the key factor is bearing friction (air-bearing vs gymbal vs Uni-pivot etc) but.... In reality, at groove modulation freqs, the stylus sees the tonearm as a rigid, completely stationary object - this is the concept of Effective Mass, the 'inertia' of the arm. (Unless you get your cartridge-tonearm match wrong & Resonant Freq is too high ) (The tonearm does move (rotate or slide) across the record of course, but VERY slowly.)
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Post by deano1974 on Jun 1, 2017 19:52:06 GMT 12
Wow.....$24,000 for a tonearm. For that money I'd expect elimination of the skating force problem - this arm, because of its offset angle, still induces skating sideforce (instabilty) on the stylus. www.analogplanet.com/content/arthur-khoubesserians-statement-tonearm(A.K. is founder of Pink Triangle, The Funk Firm, always innovative ideas - deano1974 will you have one in stock soon? ) Tell you what pat 50% deposit and you can have what ever you want lol
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Post by Owen Y on Jun 1, 2017 20:27:24 GMT 12
How about a loaner ppogramme?
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Post by deano1974 on Jun 1, 2017 21:21:58 GMT 12
You must be dreammming lol
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