Pundit
Post by peter0c on Nov 4, 2023 10:26:59 GMT 12
My well trained partner spotted this in the Webbs' catalogue:
Garrard 301, 12 inch SME and Denon DI103 mc Thorens TD125 with 12 inch SME EAR E Glow S valve phono amp
EAR 861 valve power amp C-J ET5 triode preamp C-J ET2 line stage C-J Classic 60 valve power amp
Tannoy 15 inch York corner cabinets speakers
All of this is from a deceased estate and bidding is open on-line for the next 3 days. I did wonder if Webbs' is going to be the eventual repository for our collectable gear given that TM is pretty boring at the moment and DL seems to be in decline. Tell me that I am wrong.
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Post by Citroen on Nov 4, 2023 11:23:19 GMT 12
Estimate prices seem a tad on the high side, whereas asking prices are more than reasonable.
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Post by michaelw on Nov 4, 2023 15:44:04 GMT 12
I see the catalogue is finally up, they have been spruiking this for a couple of weeks now.
If you think those prices are high you should see their car estimates.
Is there a ridiculous 15% buyers premium on these items ?
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Post by Citroen on Nov 4, 2023 15:59:26 GMT 12
How far off the car estimates do they usually get?
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Post by michaelw on Nov 4, 2023 16:21:08 GMT 12
Worse than their hifi auctions.
Reading thru the T&C
5. After the Sale
5.1. Buyers Premium
In addition to the hammer price, the buyer agrees to pay to Webb’s the buyer’s premium. The buyer’s premium is 19.5% of the hammer price plus GST. (Goods and Services Tax) where applicable.
FAAAK OFFFF
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Post by Citroen on Nov 4, 2023 17:00:45 GMT 12
OMG!
No wonder they want such a high price, to cover the additional costs
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Post by RdM on Nov 4, 2023 21:09:48 GMT 12
I got a little flutter when I saw these:
Reminded me of this image from the My Cassette revival thread: But from the dimensions more like VHS tape size? Or maybe just for file cards? When I worked in the Auckland Museum library on a 6 month temp job in the early '80s there were file card cabinets like that.
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Post by Citroen on Nov 4, 2023 21:41:23 GMT 12
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Pundit
Post by Dom on Nov 6, 2023 6:57:23 GMT 12
Any guesses as to the drivers?
I hope they're higher spec than those castors!
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Pundit
Post by paulsaints on Nov 6, 2023 11:54:07 GMT 12
I had a serious think about these speakers, especially as I will be in Auckland for Wednesday "Pick-up" day but at 1.9m tall they wouldn't fit in the SUV even with all the seats down.
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Post by Citroen on Nov 6, 2023 17:08:44 GMT 12
paulsaints just cut the top off and glue it back later! 😄
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Post by Citroen on Nov 7, 2023 22:11:39 GMT 12
Garrard 301 went for $5,258
Thornes TD125 unsold
Tall horn speakers $896.25
Tannoys: Estimate$12,000 - $15,000Price Realised incl. BP$25,095
Library drawers: $501.90!
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Post by michaelw on Nov 8, 2023 9:49:22 GMT 12
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Post by Citroen on Nov 8, 2023 15:33:40 GMT 12
Thorens TD125 Fitted With An SME Tonearm
Estimate$2,000 - $3,000
Price Realised incl. BP$1,314.50
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Post by michaelw on Nov 8, 2023 20:06:13 GMT 12
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Post by RdM on Nov 8, 2023 20:23:56 GMT 12
Library drawers: $501.90!
Thanks for noting those!
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Post by RdM on Nov 8, 2023 21:04:10 GMT 12
I had a serious think about these speakers, especially as I will be in Auckland for Wednesday "Pick-up" day but at 1.9m tall they wouldn't fit in the SUV even with all the seats down.
I admired them too as what I thought might be a competent DIY woodwork project, perhaps from a published plan, but my grumpy self thought, could place felt in the picture frame recesses above and below the drivers, and then anyway have chamfered side edges, a bit more aerodynamic... and while the stepped strips making the curve of the horn mouths are cute, why not rout a curve in the side walls of them and insert bendy plywood, damped and stiffened behind, whatever ...
I had no desire or need for them, but they were interesting to look at.
As for fitting in the SUV;- not even diagonally? Or 3D diagonally?
No roof rack I assume.
Cheers! ;=}))
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Pundit
Post by peter0c on Nov 11, 2023 12:20:32 GMT 12
Here is the realised price (plus as MichaelW noted plus 19.5% buyers premium plus 15% GST) for the items listed. Estimated price first then Realised Garrard 301, 12 inch SME and Denon DI103 mc $5-6k $5258 Thorens TD125 with 12 inch SME $2-3k $1314.50 EAR E Glow S valve phono amp $2.5-4k $3107EAR 861 valve power amp $5-8k $8365 C-J ET5 triode preamp $5-8k $7170C-J ET2 line stage $2.5-4k $1314.50C-J Classic 60 valve power amp $3-4k $3585 Tannoy 15 inch York corner cabinets speakers $12-15k $25095
So Webb's estimated prices weren't too far off the mark - unless of course you add in the buyers premium plus GST. Let's try with the respectable Conrad Johnson Classic 60 which sold bang on the estimate at $3585. With the buyers premium the price is $4284.07 and with GST the final price is $4926.68. Not such a bargain then. The buyer of the Tannoy Yorks paid in all $34486.79 which is seriously stupid. Webb's are creaming it!
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Pundit
Post by stuzzo on Nov 11, 2023 13:11:11 GMT 12
The estimates at auction are just for the sale price, no premiums etc so the estimates were pretty close.
Art’s one way to hide your worth from the government. I don’t know about hi-fi!
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Post by michaelw on Nov 11, 2023 14:19:48 GMT 12
Yep ! All those extras add up Thanks for compiling the list Peter 
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Pundit
Post by paulsaints on Nov 12, 2023 8:12:24 GMT 12
What wasn't clear to me was whether the +GST referred to the total purchase or was just gst on the buyers premium. i.e. no gst on the second hand goods but gst on the buyer premium "service".
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Pundit
Post by stuzzo on Nov 12, 2023 9:11:21 GMT 12
What wasn't clear to me was whether the +GST referred to the total purchase or was just gst on the buyers premium. i.e. no gst on the second hand goods but gst on the buyer premium "service". GST applies only to the buyers premium. Basically, you are buying second hand goods so not GST rated but the premium is a service which attracts GST, as you say.
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Pundit
Post by stuzzo on Apr 4, 2024 13:38:54 GMT 12
Another Webbs auction coming up. 
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Post by Citroen on Apr 4, 2024 13:58:20 GMT 12
They're always having auctions 😁
Any of particular interest?
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Pundit
Post by stuzzo on Apr 4, 2024 14:02:15 GMT 12
They're always having auctions 😁 Any of particular interest? Hi Fi as per photo. Catalogue not out yet.
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Post by Citroen on Apr 4, 2024 15:49:27 GMT 12
Sorry, the photo hadn't loaded on my phone when I replied.
Got it now.Thanks.
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Pundit
Post by stuzzo on Apr 9, 2024 11:02:28 GMT 12
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Post by Citroen on Apr 9, 2024 12:34:41 GMT 12
Lots 14 and 29 look interesting.
Est. $800 to $1000 for an SME3009?
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Post by michaelw on Apr 9, 2024 13:41:45 GMT 12
There might be a nice, boxed 3012s2 coming up for sale soon...
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Pundit
Post by Dom on Apr 9, 2024 14:58:54 GMT 12
The Tannoy Cheviots caught my eye; going by the look of the tweeters, I wonder if they're 10" drivers?
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