Post by Dom on Apr 24, 2023 21:23:57 GMT 12I'm curious. It seems to be an answer to some questions in my system. What can you say about it? TIA, Dom
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180g album, "The Lights of Te Atatu" released 2018 
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Any Perreaux VP3 owners out there? Apr 25, 2023 11:24:42 GMT 12
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Post by michaelw on Apr 25, 2023 11:24:42 GMT 12
What questions ?
Looks decent. Multiple inputs could be handy. Hate rear mounted DIPs. 
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Post by Dom on Apr 25, 2023 11:31:39 GMT 12
I'm currently using two Graham Slee Reflex preamps, one MM (mono) and one MC.
I'm envisaging a simpler system and the VP3 seems to cover all those bases. So few phono-stages have two inputs or mono. Agreed, the dipswitches are a pain but at least they're external and I would most likely only need to set and forget. Singer/songwriter at: www.dominicblaazer.net
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Post by michaelw on Apr 25, 2023 14:10:32 GMT 12
A couple of brands with multi-input phono stages (Aesthetix, Audio Research) also offered full remote control
 But mega bucks  Graham Slees are great sounding - I'd keep them unless you have a big budget.
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Post by cooksferry on Apr 25, 2023 15:55:45 GMT 12
The Project RS2 has two inputs and has done away with rear dip switches.
www.project-audio.com/en/product/phono-box-rs2/ Possible downside is one input is RCA and one balanced. I just arranged for Simon to wire my Wand Plus in balanced mode and problem solved. 
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Post by Citroen on Apr 25, 2023 16:42:30 GMT 12
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Post by michaelw on Apr 25, 2023 16:58:35 GMT 12
Interesting Project
$2899 www.rapalloav.co.nz/product/pro-ject-phono-box-rs2-phono-preamplifier/?v=65873cdc07df Does balanced matter in phono stages as cartridges are not balanced/dual-differential in operation.
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Post by RdM on Apr 25, 2023 21:12:24 GMT 12$2899 www.rapalloav.co.nz/product/pro-ject-phono-box-rs2-phono-preamplifier/?v=65873cdc07df Does balanced matter in phono stages as cartridges are not balanced/dual-differential in operation. word porridge ... ? cartridges are balanced until one side (say -ve) is connected to ground, wherever, (some carts had earthing straps) but obviously in entering an unbalanced RCA socket. So having balanced XLR inputs (and circuitry behind) should bring improvements. Yes I was looking at the RS2 recently, consistent retail price in NZ. and others on a search. 
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Post by Dom on Apr 26, 2023 8:06:13 GMT 12Did I write that? Was that me? I thought I was walking out of the forest but here I am again in the same place...
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Any Perreaux VP3 owners out there? Apr 26, 2023 10:32:56 GMT 12
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Post by michaelw on Apr 26, 2023 10:32:56 GMT 12
I knew I wasn't suffering from deja vu !
No black cats were seen...
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Post by cooksferry on Apr 26, 2023 11:11:02 GMT 12Did I write that? Was that me? I thought I was walking out of the forest but here I am again in the same place... Glad to see I'm not alone in going in circlesđ
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Any Perreaux VP3 owners out there? Apr 26, 2023 16:38:58 GMT 12
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Post by michaelw on Apr 26, 2023 16:38:58 GMT 12$2899 www.rapalloav.co.nz/product/pro-ject-phono-box-rs2-phono-preamplifier/?v=65873cdc07df Does balanced matter in phono stages as cartridges are not balanced/dual-differential in operation. word porridge ... ? cartridges are balanced until one side (say -ve) is connected to ground, wherever, (some carts had earthing straps) but obviously in entering an unbalanced RCA socket. So having balanced XLR inputs (and circuitry behind) should bring improvements. Yes I was looking at the RS2 recently, consistent retail price in NZ. and others on a search. Are cartridges balanced ? I was lead to believe otherwise by M Fremer and GaryM While phono cartridges âfloatâ ground, they are not âbalancedâ nor obviously are they dual-differential < isn't that essential for balanced operation ? Hmmm Anywhoo back to phono stages with multiple inputs... If an Audio Research Ref is out of budget how about a Musical Fidelity M6x with 3 inputs
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Post by cooksferry on Apr 26, 2023 17:02:00 GMT 12
Feeling wealthy there's the Manley Steelhead with three inputs and lots of adjustable features.
Pretty sure some years back I saw a second hand one at Soundline CHCH for about $5000 which would have been good buying. www.manley.com/hifi/mshlr
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Any Perreaux VP3 owners out there? Apr 26, 2023 19:23:56 GMT 12
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Post by Citroen on Apr 26, 2023 19:23:56 GMT 12
puresoundhifi.co.nz/product/378/Masterclass-Phono-Stage-Pre-Amp
I use this because it has 2 MC and 1 MM input. As well as it sounding pretty good. 
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Post by Dom on Apr 27, 2023 8:19:13 GMT 12
Just to back up the truck a tad, I'm not actually looking to spend monumental sums of money. Although there are some delicious looking options out there!
Manley? Over my dead body. Hideous, fugly stuff and no, I don't care if it sounds good! The Slees do sound great ... but ... anyway, I need to re-site them. There's a hum I can hear that disappears when I unplug. Must be too close to my power amps. Singer/songwriter at: www.dominicblaazer.net
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Post by Citroen on Apr 27, 2023 13:29:44 GMT 12
That Manley does look very "industrial"
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Post by michaelw on Apr 27, 2023 14:07:05 GMT 12
Is there an official agent in NZ ?
Humming phonos - check your cables too - tight is right !
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Post by Dom on Apr 27, 2023 17:12:42 GMT 12
Thanks MW, the plugs are definitely tight but they sit only a few inches above the QUAD ii power amps, on another shelf.
My educated guess is they're picking up hum from the transformers. Singer/songwriter at: www.dominicblaazer.net
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Post by RdM on Apr 27, 2023 20:23:06 GMT 12word porridge ... ? cartridges are balanced until one side (say -ve) is connected to ground, wherever, (some carts had earthing straps) but obviously in entering an unbalanced RCA socket. So having balanced XLR inputs (and circuitry behind) should bring improvements. Yes I was looking at the RS2 recently, consistent retail price in NZ. and others on a search. Are cartridges balanced ? I was lead to believe otherwise by M Fremer and GaryM While phono cartridges âfloatâ ground, they are not âbalancedâ nor obviously are they dual-differential < isn't that essential for balanced operation ? Hmmm Anywhoo back to phono stages with multiple inputs... Hmm indeed. I was thrown a bit with "dual-differential" - it seemed to me a motoring gearbox term, or some such. Come on, independent coils, unless earthed at the cartridge or by RCA sockets. I have a B&O SP14? cart here that has 5 output terminals. Another something with a strap. Read more about it:- I'm sorry, salad or soup;- it was just a throwaway line;- it wasn't clear to me at the time. ;=}) Cheers!
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