Post by sub on Aug 22, 2021 17:53:25 GMT 12
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Post by Citroen on Aug 22, 2021 18:24:46 GMT 12
Never heard of that series from them. I keep returning to my Sugden PA-4 phono despite trying some very good designs from other manufacturers (such as Pure Audio). 
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Post by davidsylvian on Aug 22, 2021 19:29:26 GMT 12
I've had, over the years (and really enjoyed), an A48, A21 (old and modern), and A21SE. Sugden amps remind me a little of a Penfolds Bin 389 - warm and on the slightly sweeter side of neutral, but with plenty of power, drive and depth (for a low power rated SS integrated). They always made me want to keep listening to just one more track.
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Post by andrewp on Aug 22, 2021 21:50:43 GMT 12
And the 389 is really a mini Grange...which for the money is just outright theft!! 389 on thevothr hand is just wonderful!
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Post by michaelw on Aug 22, 2021 23:38:25 GMT 12
Back in the day I reviewed the Master Class IA-4 integrated amp and PDT-4 cdp. A very sweet sounding combo but not enough grunt for the Maggies I was using at the time.   
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Post by Dom on Aug 23, 2021 11:35:19 GMT 12
Back in the day I reviewed the Master Class IA-4 integrated amp and PDT-4 cdp. A very sweet sounding combo but not enough grunt for the Maggies I was using at the time. Not enough!? What do you have to feed Maggies with?
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Post by davidsylvian on Aug 23, 2021 14:04:18 GMT 12
Is that 07 Grange from your cellar Michael? Better not let Marc Taddei see that... I've only had a couple of Granges in the past, that a friend kindly opened at New Years (back when they were $200, not $900+). They were still tannic monsters at about 12 years old on opening, so keeping them cellared for 20 or more years, was the only option.
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Post by michaelw on Aug 23, 2021 14:20:42 GMT 12
Back in the day I reviewed the Master Class IA-4 integrated amp and PDT-4 cdp. A very sweet sounding combo but not enough grunt for the Maggies I was using at the time. Not enough!? What do you have to feed Maggies with? not so much as big power but power with control, most tubes won't cut it, need solid state muscle to control the Maggie's bottom end
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Post by michaelw on Aug 23, 2021 14:23:05 GMT 12
Is that 07 Grange from your cellar Michael? Better not let Marc Taddei see that... I've only had a couple of Granges in the past, that a friend kindly opened at New Years (back when they were $200, not $900+). They were still tannic monsters at about 12 years old on opening, so keeping them cellared for 20 or more years, was the only option.
Out of my price range, got given a bottle many years ago.
It comes out of it's hidey place now and then to be admired.
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- Edited Aug 23, 2021 15:20:35 GMT 12 by jon
Post by jon on Aug 23, 2021 15:19:35 GMT 12
Drinking now, however drinking to after 2030 so you do have time. Be careful, I assume you do not have it in proper temperature controlled storage? At around $750 bucks a bottle take good care of it.
If you want to drink it, then serve with food and let the wine be the star of the show, serve with simple food - burgers are good! Wagyu beef, venison as well. Take care with acid flavours - not too much!
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Post by Citroen on Aug 23, 2021 17:58:08 GMT 12
Sell it and buy a whole bunch of 389's!
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Post by michaelw on Aug 23, 2021 18:01:13 GMT 12
Like the idea of burgers, was going to do Wellington on a Plate, then Covid  Even 389 is out of my normal budget !
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Post by Citroen on Aug 23, 2021 18:05:09 GMT 12
Not enough!? What do you have to feed Maggies with? not so much as big power but power with control, most tubes won't cut it, need solid state muscle to control the Maggie's bottom end
Agree with respect to 1.6's, a solid state Cambridge Audio 100W amp just was not up to it. Plinius 8150 was much better but bass still plummy.
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Post by Citroen on Aug 23, 2021 18:07:19 GMT 12
Like the idea of burgers, was going to do Wellington on a Plate, then Covid Even 389 is out of my normal budget ! I know what you mean!
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Post by RdM on Aug 23, 2021 18:21:48 GMT 12
Is that 07 Grange from your cellar Michael? Better not let Marc Taddei see that... I've only had a couple of Granges in the past, that a friend kindly opened at New Years (back when they were $200, not $900+). They were still tannic monsters at about 12 years old on opening, so keeping them cellared for 20 or more years, was the only option.
Out of my price range, got given a bottle many years ago.
It comes out of it's hidey place now and then to be admired.
Strangely enough I observed this last Tues 17th while heading for the cheaper wines at Countdown Ponsonby. Pic from my old iPhone 4S.
(I've found Cleanskin 14% Wine of Moldova Cab Merlot quite acceptable, and even the ditto 14% SA Shiraz.)
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Post by michaelw on Aug 23, 2021 20:51:37 GMT 12
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Post by michaelw on Aug 23, 2021 21:00:00 GMT 12
not so much as big power but power with control, most tubes won't cut it, need solid state muscle to control the Maggie's bottom end
Agree with respect to 1.6's, a solid state Cambridge Audio 100W amp just was not up to it. Plinius 8150 was much better but bass still plummy. x1000
Forget tubes, even the Jadis DA60 wasn't up to it.
Maybe a big ass VTL,
Krell, some Jeff Rowland was good
Select Rotel, NAD if on a budget
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