Post by Citroen on Nov 20, 2019 10:32:18 GMT 12
No doubt due to the new GST changes beginning Dec 1.
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We are unable to ship non-digital items to New Zealand shipping addresses. Please choose a shipping address that is not in New Zealand to proceed. Some restrictions may still apply depending on the item."
I'm assuming that my pre-orders will be cancelled.
Orders not yet despatched are still active in the system.
Amazon US still shipping to NZ currently. Hopefully they won't follow UK and close their doors to NZ.
They stopped shipping to AU when they made their changes but at least they had their on Amazon.AU store to buy from.
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Post by michaelw on Nov 20, 2019 11:16:11 GMT 12
bastards ! use youshop ?
the internet was supposed to open up global boundaries not shut them down
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Post by Citroen on Nov 20, 2019 14:51:52 GMT 12
The trouble with YouShop is that the repackage "to save costs" by volume. But in doing so they can lose the packaging essential to ensure corner free damage. Also, more handling, more depots, more transit points, people chucking your package about.
They might open up Amazon AU to us.
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Post by michaelw on Nov 20, 2019 14:58:13 GMT 12
maybe but i used amazon uk when i wanted a specific uk version of music or movie, no guarantee of source from amazon aus. 
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Post by Citroen on Nov 20, 2019 15:15:38 GMT 12
Indeed!
Bought about by the recent GST changes. I suppose the whole idea is to buy local, and support the local economy/retailers, make it an even playing field, keep the bricks and mortar stores alive etc.
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Post by Owen Y on Nov 20, 2019 17:01:08 GMT 12
Youshop - I've never had my parcel 'repackaged' by them. Have you had vinyl records repackaged? Also, do USA suppliers not now mostly use those glue-tabbed 'frustration free' cardboard record mailers?
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Post by Citroen on Nov 20, 2019 17:08:10 GMT 12
Yep.
And no, not all retailers use LP mailers.
I've had to get replacement covers sent due to youshop repackaging.
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Post by michaelw on Nov 20, 2019 17:26:49 GMT 12
i've had replacement covers and replacement records
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Post by Citroen on Nov 20, 2019 17:53:07 GMT 12
Which is exactly why I'm not thrilled to use Youshop for records.
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Post by sub on Nov 20, 2019 18:03:12 GMT 12
Plus you have to lay gst on the cost of youshop packaging and delivery charges!
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Post by Citroen on Nov 20, 2019 18:07:40 GMT 12
Plus side is that the taxable limit is raised to $1000 before duty and Biosecurity fees are incurred.
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Post by colinf on Nov 20, 2019 19:57:21 GMT 12
That’s a shame. If you need something specific I might be able to send it to you. ColShop? But don’t want to do this too often, it’s already quite busy here!
AMR-iFi R&D
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Post by cooksferry on Nov 21, 2019 6:52:15 GMT 12
I spent over half an hour yesterday morning on live chat with an Amazon rep trying to get a sensible answer as to why we'd suddenly been cut off but it was like trying catch mercury in a fishing net. There's a degree of arrogance on Amazon's behalf in not putting out any sort of announcement as to why we're suddenly shut out. Like others I'm guessing that it has something to do with the new GST rules but it seems odd that we can still use Amazon.com with their global shipping and not the other sites.
Since my purchases are winding down and have been few and far this year it's not going to have a great personal affect on me but I'm glad that I managed to get my order away for the big Gene Clark box set before this happened.
For mainstream releases I'll probably look to sites like Import Cds, CD Japan and Juno Records in the UK, all have given me good service in the past.
A couple of days ago picked up the Stones Let It Bleed 50th deluxe from Import cds and using their current discount promo it was cheaper than Amazon and with faster shipping.
Using Youshop for UK purchases is an option but since it's regarded as a domestic purchase you do loose the VAT deduction which could be reasonably substantial on more expensive items.
Interesting times.
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Post by colinf on Nov 21, 2019 7:24:01 GMT 12
Yes VAT here is a high 20%. But 0% for food.
AMR-iFi R&D
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Post by Citroen on Nov 21, 2019 7:34:54 GMT 12
Yes, strange that ALL the other Amazon sites are now blocked except for the US site.
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Post by Citroen on Nov 21, 2019 10:03:24 GMT 12
My last ever Amazon DE purchase arrived today Auf wiedersehen, lieber freund... The Complete Matrix Tapes, Velvet Underground
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Post by cooksferry on Nov 22, 2019 6:14:15 GMT 12
I find it interesting that there's been nothing about this shutdown in the media that I can find or nothing from Amazon.
Did a trial run yesterday with a newly announced 15lp set based on radio plays of the Discworld books on Amazon.com. It threw up an estimated pre pay tax of NZ$140. Today the price on the set has dropped and there's no tax. There's going to be a fair amount of suck and see coming up.
Just as a side note for anyone into books, I used to get quite a few 2nd hand items via Amazon UK from Better World Books. They do have their own website with over 2 million books listed and it appears shipping to NZ is 2 UK pounds. Delivery can be slow(5 weeks approx) but price is good and condition of the books has to this date been very good.
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Post by sub on Nov 25, 2019 17:44:42 GMT 12
Have Amazon set up a distribution centre in nz? Had a 3 cd set on back order since May (Fleetwood MAC, before the beginning) arrived today less than 5 days after being notified order on its way.
Arrived today in a Fastways package, nz does not feature in the address label, and return address given as Golden State FC LLC, 118 Hugo Johnston Drive, Penrose, which happens to be Fastways main Depot.
Interesting
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Post by paulsaints on Nov 25, 2019 18:11:36 GMT 12
Amazon.co.nz is quite specific about GST being the reason, "Due to Australian and New Zealand GST law, we are currently unable to ship physical items from Amazon.co.uk to New Zealand or Australian shipping addresses. Please check if Amazon.com.au or Amazon.com sells the item you would like to purchase, or choose a delivery address that is not in New Zealand or Australia to proceed with placing an order."
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Post by cooksferry on Nov 26, 2019 7:32:25 GMT 12
Still not sure why we can still use .com but not the rest as before. The only possible answer that I can arrive at is that all the other European sites and Japan removed their local sales tax before shipping to us unlike the USA and maybe the process of removing one tax and adding another is just a bridge too far.
In the mean time other sites like Import CDs continue to happily take my money.
Anyone using Import Cds there is a promo to save 10% on an order and doesn't seem dependent on the amount of the order.
Use TENOFF at checkout.
My order of the Rolling Stones Let It Bleed 50th deluxe set arrived yesterday from ICDs, freight was a bit higher than Amazon but shipped Fedex and here in five days safely.
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Post by cooksferry on Dec 5, 2019 6:45:42 GMT 12
I see that Import CDs and CD Japan are now adding 15% GST onto their orders.
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Post by garym on Dec 5, 2019 9:25:35 GMT 12
Amazon said somewhere recently that the UK site is just not ready to collect GST yet. The USA was set up in time for the transition.
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Post by michaelw on Dec 5, 2019 10:15:57 GMT 12
i read that too.
amazon are just playing silly buggers.
they are the leaders in online sales systems, a few adjustments to collect nz gst should be a doodle for them to implement... if they wanted to.
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Post by Owen Y on Dec 7, 2019 19:28:29 GMT 12
(I see that AliExpress now adds NZ GST to orders.)
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Post by garym on Dec 7, 2019 23:12:42 GMT 12
(I see that AliExpress now adds NZ GST to orders.) Not as of a couple of days ago. Did you get charged GST? I don't fancy the IRD's success at getting accurate reporting and remittance out of a Chinese megalith like AliExpress.
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Post by garym on Dec 7, 2019 23:20:11 GMT 12
(I see that AliExpress now adds NZ GST to orders.) Not as of a couple of days ago. Did you get charged GST? I don't fancy the IRD's success at getting accurate reporting and remittance out of a Chinese megalith like AliExpress. I take it back. Just tested, they do. Now how do we get a tax invoice for the transaction so that we can keep a record for GST purposes?
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Post by cooksferry on Dec 8, 2019 7:58:22 GMT 12
Seems a lot of overseas sellers are switched onto charging gst. Ordered a book from World of Books a couple of days ago and got charged. They're a huge 2nd hand seller(million plus books,) that I used to access via Amazon Uk. If they can take off vat and add gst can't see what Amazon's problem is.
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