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Post by murphybridget on Apr 17, 2024 17:39:17 GMT 12
That accordion version is just plain weird!
I agree;- I almost regretted posting it, after trying to listen to it later! But then there's another twist with (what I think is) a bandoneon, on Astor Piazzolla’s Four Seasons of Buenos Aires (Las cuatro estaciones porteñas).
(I'm a bit of a bandoneon fan after discovering Dino Saluzzi in the late 80's early 90's. I have about 3 ECM LP's of his - there are more.)
Anyway, that's in this Guardian link to alternate versions, but I think on a brief glance my favourite is the Spanish electric guitar version, and the YouTube sidebar portends even more!
Jazz pianist Bruno Heinen has collaborated with Camerata Alma Viva for a new take on one of the most instantly recognisable classical works of all time.
He picks his five favourite versions of Vivaldi’s famous composition
I look forward to hearing more from them! ;=})
What an amazing performance caught on video.
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Post by bruise on Apr 18, 2024 11:17:05 GMT 12
Stumbled over this thread as a result of the post above.
I remembered I have a couple of LPs of the 4 seasons stashed away and probably only played once.
I have a mint copy of Nigel Kennedy's 4 seasons (an EMI 100 pressing - LPCENT 15) and a copy of the Neville Mariner version (ZRG 654). The vinyl on the Mariner is NM and the cover is VG+.
My classical tastes have veered towards the bombast as opposed to the baroque and so I'd be happy for these to go to a good home. say $25 for the pair. I will ultrasonically clean both before dispatch. PM me if you are interested or want to make an offer I can't refuse.
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Post by RdM on Apr 18, 2024 22:25:31 GMT 12
What an amazing performance caught on video.
Thanks for reviving interest in this thread, Bridget Murphy! ;=}) I see earlier up it that they played the whole suite, YouTube here: I suppose it could get to seem a bit much, but that's at least a reference to it. Might be fun to have handy and play occasionally. I'm going to upload more re Shadow Kingdom shortly ... the full scraped video, at least that short-lived YouTube snapshot with audio. It should be officially released now. Ideally Blu Ray for audio video quality. Marbecks hadn't heard of it. But I bought the CD from them. The CD audio sounds so much better than the brief YouTube upload version that got cancelled a day later. Still, great to see video as well. I'll make that a separate post! I've been busy helping a friend set up a system for a party over the last couple of days. PM's and emails yet to be caught up with too. Cheers! ;=})
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Post by murphybridget on Apr 22, 2024 17:20:34 GMT 12
Some other versions A Polish orchestra with an all valve ahem tube recording system: _ Il Tempio Armonico/Davide Monti/Alberto Rasi - Vivaldi: 4 Seasons of Love (2010) FLAC (tracks) 24 bit/96 kHz | Time - 52:59 minutes | 1,04 GB Official Digital Download - Source: HDTracks.com | Digital booklet Il Tempio Armonico rediscovers the deepest essence of The Four Seasons with a performance based on the original manuscripts and carried out 'a parti reali', with arpa doppia and harpsichord as continuo. The outcome is a performance that succeeds in giving back the original freshness, charm and grace of Vivaldi’s masterpiece. _ 5 recorders, they made a bass recorder (in C ) for the project. _ And then, weirdly, Richard Galliano on accordion: www.discogs.com/Richard-Galliano-Vivaldi/release/5391767Winter: _ There's all sorts out there! I can't tell if its a flute or an accordion.
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Post by murphybridget on Apr 24, 2024 14:59:24 GMT 12
Almost bought another version, Askenazy on violin, but the copy I found at the hospice op shop despite looking mint, both cover and LP, it had a small scratch about an inch long on track one of side 2, so passed . There was also an Argo copy in the same box, very tidy, had a look hoping it was a UK pressing, but no, another NZ pressing. But, having a tidy up of up of my drawers of CDs found another version - Giles Apap & the colours of invention, which I had forgotten about. Apap on violin, Miriam Lafar, accordion, Ludovit Kovac, cymbalum, Philippe Noharet, double bass. Quite entertaining, and different. The opening bars are hummed and whistled, before the violin brings order. Enjoyable, except the violin treble is too hot and piercing in places. It sounds like you've been on quite the adventure searching for the perfect version of the music you're after! Giles Apap & the Colours of Invention certainly seems like a unique ensemble, blending violin, accordion, cymbalum, and double bass. The addition of humming and whistling in the opening bars adds an intriguing twist to the music.
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Post by murphybridget on Apr 30, 2024 16:50:29 GMT 12
Almost bought another version, Askenazy on violin, but the copy I found at the hospice op shop despite looking mint, both cover and LP, it had a small scratch about an inch long on track one of side 2, so passed . There was also an Argo copy in the same box, very tidy, had a look hoping it was a UK pressing, but no, another NZ pressing. But, having a tidy up of up of my drawers of CDs found another version - Giles Apap & the colours of invention, which I had forgotten about. Apap on violin, Miriam Lafar, accordion, Ludovit Kovac, cymbalum, Philippe Noharet, double bass. Quite entertaining, and different. The opening bars are hummed and whistled, before the violin brings order. Enjoyable, except the violin treble is too hot and piercing in places. Exploring their album promises to be an adventure into a world of color and invention—a journey well worth taking!
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Post by michaelw on Apr 30, 2024 17:09:13 GMT 12
IS murphybridget a human or AI ? Please introduce yourself
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Post by RdM on Apr 30, 2024 19:51:01 GMT 12
Actually I've agonised over the last few days on how to ameliorate, edit, and or craft - make - an apology for my sudden irritated outburst. On reflection, there was no need for me to be so rude. As a fellow member wrote to me in a PM, inter alia:
Have to agree that the new members posts seem rather strange. While I quickly skipped them I put their stilted language and construct to them perhaps not being a native English speaker. Never thought of A1.
Of course, culturally and with the above, and perhaps with their own psychological makeup, perhaps this person's approach to an introduction is to make sympathetic and speculative commentary from the sidelines, as it were. If so, I might have caused offense. Somewhat inexcusable.
So while I was still thinking about it, I woke yesterday thinking I must at least delete it. I've still been thinking what to write, so this is an opportunity for a start.
I was surprised by my sudden loss of temper, Or cool. It's pretty rare! Lowered inhibitions with a few evening drinks perhaps, but unusual. Still, spontaneous.
I remember slightly similar irritation on my first day of 3rd form boarding school (a hostel for two years) when a young chap from the country attached himself to me, wanting and expecting that I might show him around... not realising that I'd only arrived about 10 minutes earlier, and just wanted to explore for myself!
(And for on-topic, I well knew Vivaldi's Four Seasons and other baroque music at that age. :-) (I had a transistor radio - but in '65 & '66 there was all this great new pop music happening too!)
Anyway, I apologise. I might have been wrong! ;=})
In any case, while remarks reminded me of AI, obviously a human had to subscribe. So I don't mean an AI is directly interfacing. It's still possible that they could generate an AI response to a directed pointer to a post, for fun or experimentation I suppose.
I even had fleeting thoughts of experimenting (I have an early login password to OpenAI somewhere here) to see if I could derive similar results, but I have too much else to do!
In my defense (there's always some excuse! ;-) I've still been in a lot of daily pain, some worse than others, but around that time I had a few bad days where breakfast was coffee and codeine and Tramadol, or codeine and paracetamol.
Not good to mix with alcohol, so only in the morning, I'll have an evening drink.
Plus, I seem to be still having long term concussion effects, loss of balance, startle reflex turned up to 11, and some fractiousness at small things, - personal events, not interpersonal, where otherwise I'm usually quite happy and polite, especially with strangers...
Oh well. So it goes... Strange.
I have to admit that I never introduced myself in the New member introductions section either ...
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Post by RdM on Apr 30, 2024 20:21:02 GMT 12
Some other versions [ ... ] There's all sorts out there! I can't tell if its a flute or an accordion. I suppose under some circumstances an accordion could sound like a flute, especially when playing flute music, or music written for flute. So could an organ. But then, your sound system could be blurring, or colouring what you hear... not being accurate enough to present the accordion as it really was, perhaps. What do you think?
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Post by RdM on Apr 30, 2024 21:15:16 GMT 12
[...] I might have caused offense. [...] OTOH, there are two sides to offense. Perhaps we should be able to talk pungently, as I read of the Kronos Quartet... There's a great Buddhist aphorism, perhaps from the Buddha himself:- "Take great care not to offend. Take great care not to be offended."
(Of course, Buddhists would also be avoiding taking intoxicants... ) I'll get me coat ... ;=})
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Post by michaelw on May 1, 2024 11:02:43 GMT 12
Ingesting intoxicants could indeed result in pungent talk (and other emissions), Back to the Four Seasons, I took up Bruise's kind offer of a Four Season twofer. Succinctly; Nige sounded worse on vinyl than CD, The St. Martins was much more analogue and did not provoke pungency.
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Post by murphybridget on May 1, 2024 15:13:28 GMT 12
I can't tell if its a flute or an accordion. I suppose under some circumstances an accordion could sound like a flute, especially when playing flute music, or music written for flute. So could an organ. But then, your sound system could be blurring, or colouring what you hear... not being accurate enough to present the accordion as it really was, perhaps. What do you think? In certain circumstances, an accordion or even an organ could potentially emulate the sound of a flute, particularly when playing music originally written for flute or when the accordionist or organist employs techniques to mimic the flute's timbre and articulation.
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Post by cooksferry on May 1, 2024 16:08:18 GMT 12
IS murphybridget a human or AI ? Please introduce yourself While not wishing to discourage new members it does seem odd that they/he/she only seems to target one members posts. Maybe rdm has his own fan club or his posts are the only ones worthy of comment. Perhaps the rest of us need to up our game 😁
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Post by Citroen on May 1, 2024 16:51:07 GMT 12
Ingesting intoxicants could indeed result in pungent talk (and other emissions), Back to the Four Seasons, I took up Bruise's kind offer of a Four Season twofer. Succinctly; Nige sounded worse on vinyl than CD, The St. Martins was much more analogue and did not provoke pungency.
Was half tempted by the twofer but glad I didn't given that rave review on the Nigel.😁
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Post by michaelw on May 1, 2024 17:55:04 GMT 12
I wasn't a fan of the CD and didn't know there was an EMI100 LP so took a punt...
EMI FAIL !
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Post by RdM on May 2, 2024 22:03:30 GMT 12
I suppose under some circumstances an accordion could sound like a flute, especially when playing flute music, or music written for flute. So could an organ. But then, your sound system could be blurring, or colouring what you hear... not being accurate enough to present the accordion as it really was, perhaps. What do you think? In certain circumstances, an accordion or even an organ could potentially emulate the sound of a flute, particularly when playing music originally written for flute or when the accordionist or organist employs techniques to mimic the flute's timbre and articulation. Q.E.D. What does this acronym stand for, or mean?
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Post by michaelw on May 3, 2024 11:14:49 GMT 12
Q.E.D. or QED is an initialism of the Latin phrase quod erat demonstrandum, meaning "that which was to be demonstrated". Literally it states "what was to be shown".[1] Traditionally, the abbreviation is placed at the end of mathematical proofs and philosophical arguments in print publications, to indicate that the proof or the argument is complete.
- wikipedia
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Post by RdM on May 3, 2024 12:50:08 GMT 12
Q.E.D. or QED is an initialism of the Latin phrase quod erat demonstrandum, meaning "that which was to be demonstrated". Literally it states "what was to be shown".[1] Traditionally, the abbreviation is placed at the end of mathematical proofs and philosophical arguments in print publications, to indicate that the proof or the argument is complete. - wikipedia Yes I knew that Michael. I wrote it in response to murphybridget's last reply, which was simply a rehashing of what I'd written, just like an AI/ChatGPT output. I thought that that demonstrated the proposition pretty conclusively, hence QED. Then I wondered what response I'd get to that - any self awareness, or just a dictionary definition. However you've provided one instead. Maybe I was trying to be too clever ;=})
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Post by michaelw on May 3, 2024 14:19:17 GMT 12
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Post by Citroen on May 3, 2024 14:58:34 GMT 12
I can confirm that michaelw is indeed a chat AI bot as demonstrated by his respinse and therefore will be banned immediately! 🤣
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Post by michaelw on May 3, 2024 15:32:04 GMT 12
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