Post by cooksferry on Jul 11, 2019 7:17:59 GMT 12
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Post by Owen Y on Jul 11, 2019 12:11:39 GMT 12
I'm always reminded of artist Roger Dean, when I see album covers of that era - Yes, Osibisa, etc.
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Post by sub on Jul 11, 2019 22:22:34 GMT 12
I’ve heard of Osibisa and Yes, even have some of their Records, but Caravan is another group I have never heard of!
Googled for info, they seem to have no clear genre, being described as playing jazz, synth pop, & progressive rock. The band seems to have a great number of member changes over the years.
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Post by Citroen on Jul 12, 2019 18:20:25 GMT 12
sub , never heard of them either 
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Post by foveaux on Jul 12, 2019 19:02:11 GMT 12
Ahhh...Caravan - part of my formative musical education.  Just checked my database - have all their vinyl up to Cunning Stunts and apart from "...& New Symphonia" all purchased on release here in NZ. Quintessential English quirkiness, humour, melody and experimentation. Such a highly underrated band/artists imo. For me, it was their jazz phrasings that lead me to Yes, Gryphon etc... = no return! Kudos to Cooks for this link.
"I see music as a lifetime affair." [Rory Gallagher]
"Free - I miss that band, but when I look back, we were very young" [Paul Rodgers]
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Post by foveaux on Jul 12, 2019 19:18:04 GMT 12
and for a flashback for Cooks: Wray Wilson and The One Stop Cassette Shop !!!!
"I see music as a lifetime affair." [Rory Gallagher]
"Free - I miss that band, but when I look back, we were very young" [Paul Rodgers]
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Post by cooksferry on Jul 13, 2019 9:11:06 GMT 12
and for a flashback for Cooks: Wray Wilson and The One Stop Cassette Shop !!!! Yes, happy memories of both shops. Spent all my spare paper round money at Wray Wilsons in the 60s. Roger was always happy to send me into the back room with a real hifi system for a demo. Built quite a nice blues collection during the late 60s revival, now alas mostly gone. From memory Dave Donaghy took over Wray Wilsons before moving down Esk Street and opening The One Stop Cassette Shop....I think there was increased competition when Play It Again opened trading in used vinyl. Got a few lps from there, shop always seemed to be busy but by that stage I had a mortgage and little spare cash. Sadly both Roger and Dave ended up taking their own lives. foveaux please correct my failing memory if the above details are incorrect, it was a long time ago.
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Post by cartridgeguyonline on Jul 13, 2019 17:05:28 GMT 12
Prog rock 101. They were a part of the canterbury scene in the sixties, other associated bands being Soft machine, Gong, khan and Hatfield and the North.
Was before my time at the time, but now has quite a following amongst hipsters. Quirky eccentric psychedelic progressive rock. A bit like Syd Barrett meets the kinks and play the Yes album. I found it a lot more accessable than things like Genesis and Yes (apart from the Yes album). YMMV
Are these the Steven Wilson remasters cooks ?
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Post by cooksferry on Jul 14, 2019 8:23:14 GMT 12
Prog rock 101. They were a part of the canterbury scene in the sixties, other associated bands being Soft machine, Gong, khan and Hatfield and the North. Was before my time at the time, but now has quite a following amongst hipsters. Quirky eccentric psychedelic progressive rock. A bit like Syd Barrett meets the kinks and play the Yes album. I found it a lot more accessable than things like Genesis and Yes (apart from the Yes album). YMMV Are these the Steven Wilson remasters cooks ? I think Wilson only did Gray and Pink. I'd think this set is the 2001 remasters which can be picked up for five pounds each on Amazon complete with bonus tracks. From what I can find sq on these is fine but the set is on the expensive side if there are no upgrades but you do get a book if that's of importance.
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Post by cartridgeguyonline on Jul 14, 2019 10:08:45 GMT 12
I have the Cd version of Wilsons Grey and Pink. The CD of outtakes is somewhat superfluous, but the DVD is amusing. Would have liked to have picked up the vinyl version but sadly now long gone, and as I already had 2 good vinyl copies not something I wanted to pay big dollars for.
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Post by foveaux on Jul 17, 2019 19:24:45 GMT 12
and for a flashback for Cooks: Wray Wilson and The One Stop Cassette Shop !!!! Yes, happy memories of both shops. Spent all my spare paper round money at Wray Wilsons in the 60s. Roger was always happy to send me into the back room with a real hifi system for a demo. Built quite a nice blues collection during the late 60s revival, now alas mostly gone. From memory Dave Donaghy took over Wray Wilsons before moving down Esk Street and opening The One Stop Cassette Shop....I think there was increased competition when Play It Again opened trading in used vinyl. Got a few lps from there, shop always seemed to be busy but by that stage I had a mortgage and little spare cash. Sadly both Roger and Dave ended up taking their own lives. foveaux please correct my failing memory if the above details are incorrect, it was a long time ago. No probs with your memory Cooks! Also there was the matey at WWs after Roger. Marty Blackmore? he took the shop down the alley for a period? He seemed a bit aloof (like a certain hifi dealer who doesn't rate your gear  ). I badgered him hard to get me the Who single Relay/Waspman. But it took me about three visits chasing my $, before he confirmed it was ordered (Marty was likely more Grateful Dead than the Who). The single eventually arrived and he at least said he rated Daltreys voice: Then Dave came after Marty, and as you say moved the shop down the street. Dave was a fine chap: he allowed me to return albums that I'd purchased on a punt (and were unheard until I got home) for full store credit, if I didn't like 'em. He probably had about 20 punters doing this, but I had the impression I was getting preferential treatment. He looked after his regular clients well, whatever the modus operandi was. Play it Again and the other place up Dee Street by the Embassy, (same owner?) I struggled to empathise with, too much of a heavy/death metal vibe...
"I see music as a lifetime affair." [Rory Gallagher]
"Free - I miss that band, but when I look back, we were very young" [Paul Rodgers]
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Post by cooksferry on Jul 18, 2019 7:15:39 GMT 12
Yes, happy memories of both shops. Spent all my spare paper round money at Wray Wilsons in the 60s. Roger was always happy to send me into the back room with a real hifi system for a demo. Built quite a nice blues collection during the late 60s revival, now alas mostly gone. From memory Dave Donaghy took over Wray Wilsons before moving down Esk Street and opening The One Stop Cassette Shop....I think there was increased competition when Play It Again opened trading in used vinyl. Got a few lps from there, shop always seemed to be busy but by that stage I had a mortgage and little spare cash. Sadly both Roger and Dave ended up taking their own lives. foveaux please correct my failing memory if the above details are incorrect, it was a long time ago. No probs with your memory Cooks! Also there was the matey at WWs after Roger. Marty Blackmore? he took the shop down the alley for a period? He seemed a bit aloof (like a certain hifi dealer who doesn't rate your gear ). I badgered him hard to get me the Who single Relay/Waspman. But it took me about three visits chasing my $, before he confirmed it was ordered (Marty was likely more Grateful Dead than the Who). The single eventually arrived and he at least said he rated Daltreys voice: Then Dave came after Marty, and as you say moved the shop down the street. Dave was a fine chap: he allowed me to return albums that I'd purchased on a punt (and were unheard until I got home) for full store credit, if I didn't like 'em. He probably had about 20 punters doing this, but I had the impression I was getting preferential treatment. He looked after his regular clients well, whatever the modus operandi was. Play it Again and the other place up Dee Street by the Embassy, (same owner?) I struggled to empathise with, too much of a heavy/death metal vibe... I remember a conversation I had with Dave in his store and the returns came up. He did voice concerns that he felt it was getting out of hand and that some clients were taking the lps home, taping them and returning for the next bite. I've always felt that he wasn't cut out to be a business man, sometimes the customer isn't right and you need to be able to say no and I'm not sure he could do that. I don't feel he got a lot of respect from some of his younger clients from some of the interactions I witnessed. This thread has raised a few more non Caravan related memories. I don't remember a music shop near the Embassy. There was a bike/radio shop there in the 60s that sold records and I think I may have purchased a couple of early Stones lps from there. Of course there was Beggs Music shop that was opposite the current library in Dee Street where I got some 45s . Seem to remember lps being 39/6 ? so not a regular purchase. There was also the DIC in Tay street that had a few bins of lps as well. Late 90s maybe there was a short lived shop in a vacant jewellers premises in lower Tay street that had a metal vibe. Think it may have moved around a few locations in town but I was pretty much out of the music scene at that stage so much passed me by. Still kick myself over missing out on some DVD-A releases that the Sounds shop in Esk street was selling off for around $5 each. Held Richard Thompson's Rumor and Sigh in my hands several times and thought I'd never have a suitable system for playback so left it....at $5. Well into three figures now if you can find it. Getting back on topic decided not to get the Caravan box set. Listened to a 2cd anthology over the weekend and decided it wouldn't get major airplay but have picked up a cd copy of Grey and Pink from the UK. If the sound is ok will probably get Plump Girls and call it quits.
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Post by cartridgeguyonline on Jul 18, 2019 7:50:24 GMT 12
FWIW its the first 3 that get the playtime here.
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Post by cooksferry on Jun 2, 2021 8:27:06 GMT 12
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Post by foveaux on Jun 2, 2021 8:48:52 GMT 12
Book me in for a session, once your set arrives 
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"Free - I miss that band, but when I look back, we were very young" [Paul Rodgers]
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Post by cooksferry on Jun 2, 2021 10:17:49 GMT 12
Book me in for a session, once your set arrives Not on the radar. I have all the Caravan I need. The Siren call falls on deaf ears now.
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). I badgered him hard to get me the Who single Relay/Waspman. But it took me about three visits chasing my $, before he confirmed it was ordered (Marty was likely more Grateful Dead than the Who). The single eventually arrived and he at least said he rated Daltreys voice: