Post by sub on Nov 23, 2018 21:36:24 GMT 12
Buy now $5K! Not mine (if it was I wouldn’t be selling it!)
www.trademe.co.nz/electronics-photography/home-audio/turntables/listing-1848236698.htm?rsqid=1165ae757721436cb815a01ef969d706 
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Garrard 401/SME3009/2 Nov 23, 2018 22:26:03 GMT 12
- Edited Nov 23, 2018 22:27:48 GMT 12 by michaelw
Post by michaelw on Nov 23, 2018 22:26:03 GMT 12that is one fugly plinth. "... recently had it serviced by the turntable guru Graham Doggett ..."  
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Post by cartridgeguyonline on Nov 24, 2018 10:06:07 GMT 12
And thats a NO from me too...
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Post by Owen Y on Nov 24, 2018 13:53:01 GMT 12
Well, I am speechless. But not surprised any more.
tonyd may be best placed to comment on value. DarkLantern blog - darklanternforowen.wordpress.com
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Post by Graham on Nov 24, 2018 14:01:17 GMT 12Don't blame me ! I just serviced it, I didn't value it. 
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Post by Citroen on Nov 24, 2018 16:17:12 GMT 12
Having seen it at Graham's, I'd say the plinth looks better in real life.
Worth every penny I say, as a biased 401 owner!  The owner must be deaf if he prefers his LP12 to this... 
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Post by Citroen on Nov 24, 2018 16:27:47 GMT 12
So what do you think IS a realistic price?
On the low side? 401 - $1000 Plinth - $400 Arm - $350 Cart - $200 TOTAL $1950? On the very high side? 401 - $1500 Plinth - $700 Arm - $500 Cart - $350 TOTAL - $3050?
Cliff
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Post by cartridgeguyonline on Nov 24, 2018 16:40:59 GMT 12
Count me in as deaf too then as I would way rather have an LP12 !
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Post by michaelw on Nov 24, 2018 16:44:49 GMT 12
$2k max.
for $5k it should be mint like a tonyd rebuild. garrard owners seem to invariably have an over0inflated sense of what their tables are worth. contrast with technics sp owners. there was a nice one recently for $1600 ?
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Post by Citroen on Nov 24, 2018 16:53:57 GMT 12
Yep. Another deaf dumb f**ker! joking
It really depends on which version LP12. An early one is light years different to a more modern one. A (1965 to 1976) 401 to my ears easily beats a similar era LP12.
Cliff
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Post by Citroen on Nov 24, 2018 17:04:12 GMT 12
Compare this to a 301, which seems to command almost twice the price of a 401.
The 401 aesthetics is not for everyone and so the 301 is more popular. But sonically, if anything the 401 is similar if not superior. That Sp10 did tempt me...
Cliff
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Post by michaelw on Nov 24, 2018 18:01:45 GMT 12
the sp10 was unsold ...
agree about 301 v. 401 any loricraft 501 in nz ?
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Post by neilsan on Nov 25, 2018 7:26:42 GMT 12
Must tell my better half that mine's worth $6000 now! Way better condition than that one.
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Post by Owen Y on Nov 25, 2018 14:46:19 GMT 12
Aesthetically, I think I prefer the 401
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Post by cooksferry on Nov 26, 2018 5:44:38 GMT 12
How good are those SME 30029 arms compared to more modern designs
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 Post by Graham on Nov 29, 2018 9:06:08 GMT 12IMO they are wonderfully engineered arms, BUT they are designed for medium to high compliance cartridges. They are not designed for the currently fashionable low compliance cartridges. The knife edge bearings and 'swiss cheese' headshell are not rigid enough. However with a medium to high compliance cartridge IMO they are excellent, plus they look period correct on a vintage turntable.
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 Post by Owen Y on Nov 29, 2018 11:48:15 GMT 12
If you believe some well-known audio commentators, the non-Improved SME 3009 is THE tonearm for best performance from this cartridge.
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Post by andrewp on Nov 29, 2018 12:56:48 GMT 12
I think some of these guys are quite simply in dreamsville... they have a tt that isnt rare or in new condition based on the photos. Having said that it isnt a crime to be asking what ever... whether or not you get a sale is another thing all together. Case and point...401 that has been on TM for ever for $4010... clearly he likes paying re list fees cos he will never sell it!
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Post by michaelw on Nov 29, 2018 20:55:20 GMT 12
$1 reserve now
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Post by tonyd on Nov 30, 2018 13:14:09 GMT 12Had bids to $505, reserve met, and then decided to withdraw auction for 24 hours? Rather unorthodox selling behaviour. I am surprised if TradeMe allowed it.
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Post by michaelw on Nov 30, 2018 13:29:56 GMT 12Description Questions & answers 1 Seller comment: Sorry folks, just going to withdraw this for 24 hrs. I'd prefer the auction finishes on a Monday (not Sunday) so I'll relist it tomorrow night... keep an eye out for it!! 10:29 pm, Thu 29 Nov all a bit dodgy ? caveat emptor
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Post by cartridgeguyonline on Nov 30, 2018 16:12:47 GMT 12
Maybe im being a bit thick, but whats the difference between an auction finishing on a Monday or a Sunday ? Is he hoping for more actionm if it finishes on a Monday ?
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Post by sub on Dec 1, 2018 8:57:39 GMT 12
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Post by andrewp on Dec 2, 2018 21:29:22 GMT 12
He could have altered the finish time for an additional fee through My Trademe in his account.
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Post by rocl on Dec 11, 2018 18:55:46 GMT 12
didn't quite get his original price.
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Post by michaelw on Dec 11, 2018 19:44:56 GMT 12
haha
less fees $121.66, leaves $1418.34 
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Post by andrewp on Dec 12, 2018 11:03:22 GMT 12
That would have been a true bargain!
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