Post by Owen Y on Apr 16, 2018 17:28:42 GMT 12
I spent another nice evening with a Jazz enthusiast group last Thurs. I am a relative Jazz novice but one of the musicians who caught my ear, was pianist Horace Silver. In this 1960s composition, he draws from his father's Cape Verde, Portuguese-African creole heritage & folk rhythms.
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Post by Citroen on Apr 16, 2018 18:45:27 GMT 12
Any chance I can get an invite?
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Post by Owen Y on Apr 16, 2018 19:42:57 GMT 12
That was an informal sub-gathering of a larger monthly group - about which I can make enquiries for you....
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Post by Owen Y on May 8, 2018 14:10:03 GMT 12
I'm sure there's a few jazz enthusiasts here who will be more enthusiastic & knowledgeable than me  I've been dabbling in Jazz for maybe 30 yrs, but haven't actually 'connected' with very much within the genre. Much like Classical music, it's easy to start in the 'wrong' place, eg via an artist who is 'difficult' to appreciate. eg. With Classical, Beethoven's late Quartets is not a good place to start (as I tried to, once) Similarly, Coltrane's hard bop masterpiece 'A Love Supreme' is probably not the easiest way to enter Jazz appreciation. Here's a guy I've come across, who started into Jazz around 5 years ago & shares his possibly useful - " A Jazz Starter Kit On Vinyl / 10 Jazz Albums For Beginners "
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Post by guitardude on May 8, 2018 16:40:21 GMT 12
Hard to disagree with any of those suggestions, though I would have added the Sonny Clark album in the background as well.
Do not start with anything by Ornette Coleman !! Would agree with Owens comments on "a love supreme".
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Post by sub on May 8, 2018 16:51:12 GMT 12
See the book/CD combo just listed in for sale section - Jazz, The Golden Era. Could be a good starting place for someone!
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Post by michaelw on May 8, 2018 17:17:21 GMT 12
ha ! a love supreme was my first 'trane album 
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Post by Citroen on May 8, 2018 17:25:46 GMT 12
Couldn't disagree more with guitardude's comment! My first instrumental jazz LP that I bought after a 10? year vinyl buying hiatus was "A Love Supreme". And this was from a "jazz" loather. Hated jazz as a yooth...yawn...so boring. A Love Supreme was exciting and different which is what attracted me. EST soon followed. Along with Miles, and Coleman. Now a days, I love discovering unheard of to me anyhow world jazz, Japanese jazz, African jazz and a lot of free jazz. Its new and refreshing to me, which sets it apart. It sounds different, and it excites me.
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Post by Owen Y on May 8, 2018 17:47:52 GMT 12
OK, some strong views, as expected.. I've always liked 'free jazz' & bebop - the looseness, the surprises. (Which is one reason I think, why I like Monk.) Whilst jazz usually attests to improvisation, I found a lot of Jazz to be rigid & formulaic in format. I don't really enjoy endless interpretations of 'standards'.
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Post by guitardude on May 8, 2018 18:17:44 GMT 12
Ornette Colemans "Of Human feelings" is the album i always used to put on back in my party days at 3.00 in the morning and I wanted everyone to go home. Virtually unlistenable imo, 4 players each playing seperate tunes. That said I am quite enjoying John Zorns take on Coleman on the spy vs spy album, also digging darcy james argue Brooklyn Babylon. Still no great love for A love Supreme though.My favourite things and Blue train would be my fav albums of his.
All of which makes Jazz one of the more difficult genres to buy unheard imo.
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Post by Citroen on May 8, 2018 19:05:55 GMT 12
"Jazz" is such a broad term.
Diana Krall to Ella Fitzgerald, Glenn Miller to the Duke, Miles to cross over Keiji Haino?
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Post by Owen Y on May 8, 2018 23:08:27 GMT 12
No problem with A Love Supreme, just not what I'd advise as an easy place to start into Jazz
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Post by Owen Y on May 9, 2018 14:55:45 GMT 12
A trip to Southern USA (incl N Orleans) switched me a lot more onto 'trad' Jazz - Fats Waller, early Louis Armstrong, Preservation Hall, 2nd line parading, jazz funerals etc etc. Strong connection to people, creole/immigrant cultures - fun, less abtract.
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Post by Owen Y on May 9, 2018 15:09:13 GMT 12
Which brings us to Jazz singers....
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Post by rmc001 on Jun 28, 2018 13:36:35 GMT 12
I suppose this is more funk really, but Ben Sidran is a great player and jazz "rapper".
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Post by davidsylvian on Jun 30, 2018 22:21:13 GMT 12
Hi Owen
If you enjoy New Orleans music (as I really do), the TV series 'Treme' by David Simon (of 'The Wire' fame) and Eric Overmyer might be worth a look. It has a great selection of various New Orleans styles as a prominent part of the drama.
Speaking of 'Song For My Father' - Rikki Don't Lose That Number...
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Post by Owen Y on Jul 1, 2018 15:09:38 GMT 12
Indeed thanks! I have some episodes on a disc, which I have yet to completely watch - thanks for the prompt Re. Rikki Don't Lose that Number - I didn't know that about the opening riff....thanks again!
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Post by deano1974 on Jul 1, 2018 16:52:09 GMT 12
If you can give this album a go, you will not be disappointed its very very good 
Manager & Product specialist at Rapallo AV & HI-FI
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Post by Owen Y on Sept 20, 2019 16:03:53 GMT 12
Ken Micallef has written for JazzTimes, Rolling Stone, Blender, Downbeat, Musician, Time Out, Spin, New York Magazine, Modern Drummer... Not to mention. Stereophile Ken Micallef's JazzVinyl Audiophile Youtube channel is about his jazz vinyl record collecting & generally looks like a useful resource for Jazz enthusiasts. Here's his favourite Blue Note records, " purely for their sonic or audio quality... the best examples of Blue Note as 'audio art' "
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Post by Citroen on Sept 20, 2019 18:29:32 GMT 12
I enjoy his videos of local record stores too.
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Post by rmc001 on Aug 14, 2020 20:21:07 GMT 12
I thought this might be the best place to post this 'sampler' of jazz interviews Owen YThese are 3 - 4 minute snippets of Ben Sidran with other top jazz musicians. I thought it was really good. (I'm no Jazz expert btw - a lot of these I haven't heard.)
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Post by Owen Y on Aug 14, 2020 22:07:42 GMT 12
Wow there's some interesting content there to explore 
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