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Post by Dom on Jul 6, 2018 9:04:45 GMT 12
In the middling future, I can see myself having two turntables set up. If nothing else changes, one will be MC and the other MM. I also own a Graham Slee Era Gold V (from when I was just MM) and Reflex C phono stages (from when I upgraded to MC). Never sold the old one 
I do love the Graham Slee house sound and didn't keep my very early Perreaux SXV1 for long at all but I am now wondering about their Audiant VP3.
With the VP3, I could have both 'tables all ready to go, and a mono function - BUT the sound? Anyone doing this right now with their VP3?
Cheers, Dom
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Post by deano1974 on Jul 6, 2018 21:04:07 GMT 12
The Vp3 is superb, I have had many phono stages over the years and this tops them all, and you have all the switches for loading In the middling future, I can see myself having two turntables set up. If nothing else changes, one will be MC and the other MM. I also own a Graham Slee Era Gold V (from when I was just MM) and Reflex C phono stages (from when I upgraded to MC). Never sold the old one
I do love the Graham Slee house sound and didn't keep my very early Perreaux SXV1 for long at all but I am now wondering about their Audiant VP3.
With the VP3, I could have both 'tables all ready to go, and a mono function - BUT the sound? Anyone doing this right now with their VP3?
Cheers, Dom
Manager & Product specialist at Rapallo AV & HI-FI
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Post by michaelw on Jul 6, 2018 21:33:23 GMT 12
keep both graham slees, wonderful products, like an affordable whest.
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Post by Citroen on Jul 7, 2018 18:07:36 GMT 12
I have a Gram Slee Reflex Era Gold. Its a cracker of an amp.
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Post by neilsan on Jul 8, 2018 9:09:45 GMT 12
The Vp3 is superb, I have had many phono stages over the years and this tops them all, and you have all the switches for loading Have you compared the Vp3 to the Dynavector P75/3 at all? Just interested in your opinion of the two.Thanks. Or the 75/4!
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Post by deano1974 on Jul 8, 2018 11:31:41 GMT 12
The Vp3 is superb, I have had many phono stages over the years and this tops them all, and you have all the switches for loading Have you compared the Vp3 to the Dynavector P75/3 at all? Just interested in your opinion of the two.Thanks. Or the 75/4!
Morning Neilsan, I have not compared the P75mk3 but I used to own the Mk2 and the VP3 far superior I have also owned Graham Slee Gram Amp 2 Communicator with upgraded PSU Parasound Halo JC3 Trichord Dino MKII & III Creek OBH-15 MKII Lehman Black Cube Musical surroundings nova II To name a few and the Vp3 is better than all of these at any price point Obviously this is purely subjective as everyone hears differently but the detail it can retrieve is superb Especially bass notes www.eliteaudiouk.com/single-post/Perreaux-Audiant-VP3-Highly-Commended-Hi-Fi-NewsAlso bmc-hifi.com.au/components/preamplifiers/phono-stages/vp3Cheers Deano
Manager & Product specialist at Rapallo AV & HI-FI
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Post by neilsan on Jul 8, 2018 18:49:25 GMT 12
Thanks Deano,Neil.
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Post by deano1974 on Jul 8, 2018 18:51:20 GMT 12
Welcome!
Manager & Product specialist at Rapallo AV & HI-FI
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Post by SL1210 on Jul 9, 2018 14:49:51 GMT 12
In the middling future, I can see myself having two turntables set up. If nothing else changes, one will be MC and the other MM. I also own a Graham Slee Era Gold V (from when I was just MM) and Reflex C phono stages (from when I upgraded to MC). Never sold the old one
I do love the Graham Slee house sound and didn't keep my very early Perreaux SXV1 for long at all but I am now wondering about their Audiant VP3.
With the VP3, I could have both 'tables all ready to go, and a mono function - BUT the sound? Anyone doing this right now with their VP3?
Cheers, Dom
I have a VP3. I have had a Project which was rubbish, and a Slee Revelation which was excellent. I currently have the Perreaux VP3 and a Benedict Audio Hothead, both of which are excellent. I have a Benz Wood and Charisma Ref cartridges and even if I upgraded those I would not need to spend any more on phono stages. Incidentally I am sure you could run two Moving Coils into the VP3 by way of using a Step Up Transformer (or Headamp) into the MM input.
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Post by Citroen on Jul 9, 2018 19:10:58 GMT 12
@sl1210 and how did the Revelation compare to your VP3?
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Post by SL1210 on Jul 9, 2018 20:10:18 GMT 12
Hi Citroen. I can only give you an impression because it was +- 4 years ago that I heard the Slee. At the time of the Slee I was running a Benz Ace, but the Perreaux is currently powering a Benz Wood. I can only say I vastly prefer the Perreaux / Benz Wood combination over the Slee / Benz Ace. The 'Wood' is higher up the Benz tree than the 'Ace'. With these two caveats in mind I would still give the nod to the Perreaux.
(As an aside guys the Charisma Ref1 cartridge is overwhelmingly superior to the Benz Wood. I mention this because they are similar in price.)
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Post by Dom on Jul 30, 2018 10:26:23 GMT 12
Thanks for the input, everybody. Lots to think about. I guess I will weigh in more seriously when I actually have the second table running and the funds to change, though selling two Slees should be enough, I would have thought. D
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Post by Dom on Nov 9, 2019 16:16:05 GMT 12
keep both graham slees, wonderful products, like an affordable whest. Well, in breaking news (ever ... so ... slowly) Michael gets the Crystal Ball award!
As "outed" elsewhere round here, my new plinth accommodates an SME 3009 along with an Alfred Bokrand 12" Ortofon arm.
The SME will used be for mono and 78 MM carts and will feed into the Era Gold V. The Ortofon will sport a stereo MC, fed into the Reflex C.
Each Slee phono stage will have its own channel in my preamp and I can just select between the two.
When in the UK this year, the lovely folks at Graham Slee retro-fitted a mono switch to each unit and despite still using a stereo cart, I have been enjoying the fruits of this a great deal.
While a single-box solution once seemed logical, I am not yet at the point where I can find a reason to move the Graham Slee units on.
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Post by Citroen on Nov 9, 2019 16:51:09 GMT 12
They are excellent wide bandwidth designs.
I can't see myself parting with mine, and use an Elevator with it for MC carts.
However, I've recently heard the VP3 and it really is VERY good, a superb one box solution.
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Post by michaelw on Nov 9, 2019 19:12:11 GMT 12
excellent dom  i see PQ Imports still handles Graham Slee and they are still reasonably priced.
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Post by Owen Y on Nov 9, 2019 19:19:56 GMT 12
I have a Mono switch fitted now in my Lounge LCR Gold phono stage & it can come in v handy.
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Post by belbo on Nov 12, 2019 22:30:14 GMT 12
I have a Mono switch fitted now in my Lounge LCR Gold phono stage & it can come in v handy. Did you make it or bought it Owen? can you share?
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Post by Owen Y on Nov 13, 2019 18:17:19 GMT 12
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Post by sub on Nov 13, 2019 18:20:27 GMT 12
They are excellent wide bandwidth designs. I can't see myself parting with mine, and use an Elevator with it for MC carts. However, I've recently heard the VP3 and it really is VERY good, a superb one box solution. How does the VP3 compare to the LV-1, monsieur C?
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Post by Citroen on Nov 13, 2019 18:49:31 GMT 12
Can't accurately say as they were in two totally different systems, but I'd suspect on a head to head the VP3 would be my prefered choice.
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Post by garym on Nov 13, 2019 20:59:07 GMT 12
Can't accurately say as they were in two totally different systems, but I'd suspect on a head to head the VP3 would be my prefered choice. The VP3 should offer some advantage, based at least on its asking price of more than double the LV-1... But then a little less than another $1000 gives you the Vinyl which is another ballpark entirely. MW has a vinyl and I think as one of the LV-1 testers can confirm the big step up that the Vinyl offers.
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Post by sub on Nov 13, 2019 22:27:38 GMT 12
Hmm, saw a VP3 advertised for circa $1600, which isn’t much more than the LV-1, and assumed that is its regular retail price. But no, Rapallo list the VP3 for circa $3500! Not that far off the price of a PA Vinyl!
Have to get some prescription glasses with graduated lens, (my eye specialist says I now need glasses for driving) so haven’t got the spare dosh to hit buy now on the $1690 VP3! Plus there is Christmas shopping around the corner. Damn!
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Post by cooksferry on Nov 14, 2019 6:33:33 GMT 12
I have a Mono switch fitted now in my Lounge LCR Gold phono stage & it can come in v handy. Did you make it or bought it Owen? can you share? May not be of interest but I had Lloyd Peppard at Mapletree Audio build be a nice little mono/stereo box. It does either left or right channels separately, both together for full mono and both for stereo with a 4 position rotary switch. Lloyd is great to deal with and I'll admit that his product styling may not be to everyone's taste but they work well. Box isn't listed on his site but if it's of interest an email will get a prompt response. hollowstate.netfirms.com/
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Post by colinf on Nov 14, 2019 6:39:27 GMT 12
Hmm, saw a VP3 advertised for circa $1600, which isn’t much more than the LV-1, and assumed that is its regular retail price. But no, Rapallo list the VP3 for circa $3500! Not that far off the price of a PA Vinyl! Have to get some prescription glasses with graduated lens, (my eye specialist says I now need glasses for driving) so haven’t got the spare dosh to hit buy now on the $1690 VP3! Plus there is Christmas shopping around the corner. Damn! Perhaps get the other half to get it for Christmas?
AMR-iFi R&D
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Post by Dom on Nov 15, 2019 7:58:26 GMT 12
Hmm, saw a VP3 advertised for circa $1600, which isn’t much more than the LV-1, and assumed that is its regular retail price. But no, Rapallo list the VP3 for circa $3500! Not that far off the price of a PA Vinyl! What mysterious pricing ... why would the VP3 be so much at Rappalo?
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Post by sub on Nov 15, 2019 8:24:33 GMT 12
Hmm, saw a VP3 advertised for circa $1600, which isn’t much more than the LV-1, and assumed that is its regular retail price. But no, Rapallo list the VP3 for circa $3500! Not that far off the price of a PA Vinyl! Have to get some prescription glasses with graduated lens, (my eye specialist says I now need glasses for driving) so haven’t got the spare dosh to hit buy now on the $1690 VP3! Plus there is Christmas shopping around the corner. Damn! Perhaps get the other half to get it for Christmas? Sanity prevails! I have an extremely good MM phono pre that I use with my Ortofon 2M Black - a PureAudio Vinyl (yes, it is configured for MM only) I would be hard pressed to find anything better for the money. So next year when pressure on funds diminish, will seek out a SUT to suit my Denon DL103R
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Post by sub on Nov 15, 2019 8:28:14 GMT 12
Hmm, saw a VP3 advertised for circa $1600, which isn’t much more than the LV-1, and assumed that is its regular retail price. But no, Rapallo list the VP3 for circa $3500! Not that far off the price of a PA Vinyl! What mysterious pricing ... why would the VP3 be so much at Rappalo? I understand that Rapallo price is the correct recommended retail. Am surprised that the one listed at just under half price (the dealer selling must be trying to clear stock) hasn’t been snapped up yet!
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Post by sub on Nov 15, 2019 11:17:52 GMT 12
Strange, perhaps Deano can explain! The VP3 is listed at $1599 at two retailers on Pricespy. One is Gary Anderson in Otago - his is marked down from $1695, and the other is Rapallo, but when you click on that link it takes you to the VP3 listed for $3500+! There is also a listing, by Supra Cables, on TM for a new one at $1695.
Has a new model been released at more than twice the price of the old?
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Post by Citroen on Nov 15, 2019 15:27:23 GMT 12
RRP in 2015 was $1695.
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Post by garym on Nov 15, 2019 16:37:45 GMT 12
Strange... The posts in this thread have all changed order.
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