Post by michaelw on Feb 7, 2018 13:55:37 GMT 12
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Post by Owen Y on Feb 7, 2018 14:03:47 GMT 12
Yes & yes - optional motor! Have spotted these at RG.
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Post by Dom on Feb 13, 2018 15:38:50 GMT 12
On many levels this seems like the answer to quite a few prayers. For those too far away to visit RG, it looks good in the flesh too, so to speak.
I must say, though, I have the odd reservation around this sentence: With the special solution, the records can drain dry. Does this mean I have to use their "special solution" for efficient air-drying or can I use the one I currently favour?
Also, on a day with this much humidity, is it actually possible for the records to drain dry?
Hmmmm???
D
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Post by Owen Y on Feb 13, 2018 15:58:17 GMT 12
Hi Dom - I've no idea what fluid mix this m/c uses, but traditionally RCMs use a 20% iso alcohol/water mix + a few drops of a Wetting agent. In our m/c we follow others' advice & recommend not using alcohol (because it is said that alcohol tends to remove plasticisers from the vinyl & I read that the US Library of Congress do not use alcohol in their cleaning/preservation for this reason). We use a 1:1000 to 1:500 dilution of detergent/surfactant/wetting agent in water for ultrasonic cleaning. It is this 'wetting agent' action (breaking of Surface Tension or 'detergent' action) that enables the water to form a thin film over the record & we have found that air-drying is rapid because of this (esp in sumer temps), as 'droplets' do not form.
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Post by Mike A on Feb 28, 2018 13:41:48 GMT 12
Just ordered one of these and RG say it is on it's way so with luck I should be able to report back in a few days.
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Post by SL1210 on Mar 1, 2018 11:51:56 GMT 12
Just ordered one of these and RG say it is on it's way so with luck I should be able to report back in a few days. I'll be waiting.
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Post by Owen Y on Mar 1, 2018 12:22:09 GMT 12
$848? ($699 + $149 for the rotisserie motor?)
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Post by Mike A on Mar 1, 2018 12:25:37 GMT 12
Owen it came to $768 as there was a discount of $80 for some reason, which I didn't look into to deeply for obvious reasons.
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Post by michaelw on Mar 1, 2018 12:36:38 GMT 12
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Post by Mike A on Mar 2, 2018 10:59:50 GMT 12
Well it arrived yesterday afternoon just before I had to go to work. Had a good look today, quite big, seems well built and if I can post the piccie you can see that it comes with a complete range of accessories! 
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Post by Graham on Mar 2, 2018 11:28:08 GMT 12
Looks like a very nice kit, but the cat doesn't seem too impressed.
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Post by Mike A on Mar 2, 2018 11:57:52 GMT 12
Looks like a very nice kit, but the cat doesn't seem too impressed. She doesn't like anything that takes my attention from her!!
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Post by Mike A on Jun 14, 2018 8:26:34 GMT 12
After using the RG cleaning fluid in my RCM and not being very impressed with the results, yesterday I finally tryed Triton X. It turns out that the RG fluid leaves a film or deposit on the surface of the lp making for less then silent playback, the Triton X on the other hand works as described elsewhere leaving nice clean quiet surfaces. The machine itself runs without a problem, it has a heater but the lowest temperature is 50C so not much use if you want to play your records afterwards... Anybody thinking about this buying this machine should order some Triton X and just chuck the RG fluid. Have to start from scratch again now and reclean the lps that I've already done 
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Post by cooksferry on Nov 20, 2018 7:08:28 GMT 12
Any further comments about the RG unit after a few months use? Does it come with a cover for the tank when not in use?
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Post by Mike A on Nov 20, 2018 14:37:14 GMT 12
Apart from the size and the noise while running I can't find fault with this machine.
Lid is included and there is a bracket on the back of the main body to hold it when the machine is in use.
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Post by cooksferry on Dec 3, 2018 13:11:24 GMT 12
sorry to trouble you again Mike A but can you give me the dimensions of the unit and a rough idea of hour much working space is needed around the unit ?
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Post by Mike A on Dec 3, 2018 14:26:47 GMT 12
no problem, the actual size is 54.1 x 33.7 x 27.7 cms but you will need at least 55 x 35 x 50 cms space for it. I have mine set up on a 60x60 table in another room out of the way. 
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Post by Citroen on Oct 11, 2021 15:33:04 GMT 12
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Post by michaelw on Oct 12, 2021 16:15:34 GMT 12
not going to wait for humminguru ?
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Post by Citroen on Oct 12, 2021 16:54:12 GMT 12
It only does 1 at a time.
I like the Real Groovy one which does up to 10 at once.
I checked Alibaba and they sell these for half the price but you have to buy in bulk!
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Post by michaelw on Oct 12, 2021 17:28:27 GMT 12
1 at a time is good ! Tranduscers are on the side, each side of the record gets an equal blast 
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Post by Citroen on Oct 12, 2021 17:42:09 GMT 12
Life's too short to clean records 1 at a time!
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Post by michaelw on Oct 12, 2021 18:23:55 GMT 12
Taken to the next level you should play multiple records on your various turntables simultaneously,
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Post by thestylusguy on Jun 6, 2022 19:32:41 GMT 12
I see this Ultrasonic thread & the DIY one. & some on VE ( including one from a MR SUB of Northland now with a LP12 ) .
On reading these it appears my newly ( 6months ago ) RG machine runs better without their solution.
Awaiting Triton to try . .
In the meantime
I have small dust particles after USC I can scrape out of the bottom of the groves ( with a very vintage velvet brush ).
Giving the record a mild case of the pops & clicks.
Many commentators mention a Vacuum cleaner system after the USC -VPI etc. & that Static is on the record in the solution hence the cavitation does not get the dust out ?
Is anyone having noiseless ( pops & clicks ) USC success w/o the vacuum ?
If its on a computer Database its not Hoarding. !
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Post by RdM on Jun 6, 2022 19:56:24 GMT 12
While I'm intending still to build from parts, not buy whole, an ultrasonic record cleaning tank set-up, and still wonder how good it will be, including why if a test for cavitation areas can be made with a sheet of ali foil, popping holes in it, that damage is not done to the finest HF wiggles in the groove; - but the dust seems interesting, and most relevant to me just the other day - for the first time in ages I experienced severe static from two really clean sounding classical LPs that had been in old polyprop & paper sleeves in a box set. Made me think of getting a Zerostat or somesuch after all.
And I'd had earlier thoughts of building a cheap DIY vacuum cleaning device too, so maybe one day all three will come into play. Thanks for the note.
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Post by harvey on Apr 21, 2023 17:42:12 GMT 12
Ready for some long overdue vinyl cleaning this weekend, definately a labour of love... 
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