Post by paul300b on Sept 20, 2018 20:11:58 GMT 12
Have you heard of any others like this?
Low internal resistance (30 ohms I think?) Like a MC, loaded from 10-10,000 ohms (unlike most MM that 47k), Cable, phonostage impedance 500pF 
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TECHNICS cartridges Sept 20, 2018 20:11:58 GMT 12
- Edited Sept 20, 2018 21:01:44 GMT 12 by paul300b
Have you heard of any others like this? Low internal resistance (30 ohms I think?) Like a MC, loaded from 10-10,000 ohms (unlike most MM that 47k), Cable, phonostage impedance 500pF
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Post by colinf on Sept 21, 2018 20:33:28 GMT 12
Nice, quite rare I imagine. I notice it says National Panasonic, the brand name before it became Technics. Most MM cartridges have about 500 ohm impedance (some much more, some much less) so to have 30 ohm impedance and 2mV I suspect it shows they were trying to get the noise from the connected phono preamp down as much as possible. Was it an expensive cartridge in its time?
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Post by paul300b on Sept 21, 2018 20:56:25 GMT 12
not sure on price. My styli are later "Technics" brand, I got the image off the net. I bought the body from Japan after finding a stash of NOS styli. Tapered cantilever from titanium, nude square shanked .2 x .7 diamond. Quality for sure. Stanton had a low Z cartridge also, 981LZ.
I have a 205mk3 also, I think Owen has one? And I have the p mount 205mk3 also.
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Post by michaelw on Sept 22, 2018 11:58:11 GMT 12
hi paul, do you have a p-mount turntable ?
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Post by Owen Y on Sept 22, 2018 12:16:56 GMT 12
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TECHNICS cartridges Sept 22, 2018 18:48:30 GMT 12
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Post by michaelw on Sept 22, 2018 18:48:30 GMT 12
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Post by colinf on Sept 22, 2018 19:20:39 GMT 12
Didn’t realise they had such an extensive lineup for the time, including MC cartridges and even a tonearm with included base and stylus pressure gauge. But how does one decide between them, with a such a large spread of output voltages to choose from?
I guess you could compare this with modern Nagaoka MM cartridges which have much the same output and impedance specs through the range, but the stylus quality increases in the better models. It looks like Top Wing chose low impedance and low output in their MM for a reason. Interestingly, they chose an aluminum cantilever. AMR-iFi R&D
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Post by michaelw on Sept 22, 2018 19:45:05 GMT 12
that was from the 1979 australian catalogue i picked up on my first trip to sydney !
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Post by SL1210 on Sept 22, 2018 20:23:43 GMT 12
I think the 'replaceable stylus' or replaceable 'stylus and cantilever' is a fab idea. The transducer is so important but so bloody expensive. If you pay $2K for an MC and you get 2K hours out of it you are paying approximately a dollar an hour. A bit more actually as running in and damage have to be factored in. On the other hand if your expensive cartridge could sit out two or three replacement stylus then that at least halves the total cost of ownership.
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Post by cartridgeguyonline on Sept 23, 2018 17:01:48 GMT 12
Hi Guys, sorry to take so long in getting here. I've got a Technics EPC100cmk3, which has a vanishingly low output of 1.45mv. ( they supplied the cart with the test datashowing the output and freq response into a 50kohm and 100pf load. It also came in a huge box with the a test LP. Nice cartridge but unfortunately in most instances because of the low output you are limited by the quality and noise level of your phono stage. This might not be quite as much of an issue as it once was ? At the time Technics also made a step up device for the cartridge, but my thoughts at the time were that it added too much of its own sound to be worth consideration.
Regarding replacement stylii Mr Sl1200. That was probably true way back when cartridges were a more popular item but now it seems as if most replacement stylii are approx 80% of the cost of the cart. examples: Ortofon 2m black, new cart $1149.00, stylus $859.00. Goldring 2500 new cart, $1249.95, stylus $999.95. I'm not sure that the classics fair any better tbh as NOS Shure V15 stylii have rocketed up in recent years as have the top Jico replacements.And thats when you can find them.... Compare this to the $600.00 AUD that Garrot bros charged to refurb my Supex 900. Of course the problem with rebuilds is that you never know exactly what you are going to end up with....
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Post by paul300b on Sept 23, 2018 17:41:51 GMT 12
Hifi News has a Review in this months issue of the epc-205mk3. It was 64 uk pounds in 1980. Hollow boron cantilever. Half the price of a Supex 900 MC.
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Post by paul300b on Sept 23, 2018 19:06:02 GMT 12This is what you need for it Owen www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Technics-Stylus-EPS-205ED-Genuine-Technics-BRAND-NEW-/112530495416
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Post by cartridgeguyonline on Sept 24, 2018 16:08:36 GMT 12
Actually Owen if you do need another stylus I recall that MJ had a couple of spares....
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Post by Owen Y on Sept 24, 2018 20:47:06 GMT 12
paul300b, cartridgeguyonline - thanks guys.
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