Post by foveaux on Aug 2, 2019 10:21:58 GMT 12
"Free - I miss that band, but when I look back, we were very young" [Paul Rodgers]
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Post by cooksferry on Aug 2, 2019 11:35:06 GMT 12
Very pretty, which one are you getting. Go for the top one and forget about the new room
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Post by michaelw on Aug 2, 2019 11:44:14 GMT 12
not according to linn... or the speaker first crowd those etsuros do look exquisite, i'd forget the faffing about with transformers...
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Post by foveaux on Aug 2, 2019 20:38:12 GMT 12
Very pretty, which one are you getting. Go for the top one and forget about the new room Haha, I'll get all the Gold all right; and buy it in person from the genius in japan...when I get lucky & win you know what...
"I see music as a lifetime affair." [Rory Gallagher]
"Free - I miss that band, but when I look back, we were very young" [Paul Rodgers]
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Post by foveaux on Aug 2, 2019 20:48:08 GMT 12
not according to linn... or the speaker first crowd those etsuros do look exquisite, i'd forget the faffing about with transformers...
I agree with the legendary, knowledgeable Invers audiophile Cooks: 'the quality of the vinyl comes first' reproduction realism therefore follows downstream.
? - Therefore: stylus, cartridge body, cabling, arm, TT etc. etc. (the Linny boys got relatively close to this mantra), alas the speakers mateys come last... To say nothing of the lsitening room acoustics
Yep, exquisite with the capital E, & true audio porn.
"I see music as a lifetime affair." [Rory Gallagher]
"Free - I miss that band, but when I look back, we were very young" [Paul Rodgers]
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Post by colinf on Aug 2, 2019 22:54:12 GMT 12
Cartridge first, then phono pre to suit, everything else after that IME. Nice looking cartridges :-)
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Post by michaelw on Aug 2, 2019 23:07:02 GMT 12
tried that, koetsu rosewood on a project sounded good but not as good as my old well tempered with lesser cartridge. turntable > arm > cartridge for me
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Post by audionut on Aug 3, 2019 20:48:41 GMT 12
Yes those are very nice cartridges. For me it’s arm, turntable then cartridge.
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Post by michaelw on Aug 3, 2019 21:15:03 GMT 12
^ done that too ! replaced the linn basik on a nz rega 3 with an ittok for laffs
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Post by Owen Y on Aug 4, 2019 12:34:11 GMT 12
Cartridges easy to change/swap. Tonearms & TTs, not so easy.
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Post by michaelw on Aug 4, 2019 14:42:18 GMT 12
it was easy with the linn mount. you could swap compatible arms in and out all day.
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Post by Owen Y on Aug 4, 2019 16:04:42 GMT 12
Tricky if say Effective Length slightly different, eg. swapping a Rega arm into a Sondek
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Post by michaelw on Aug 4, 2019 16:39:04 GMT 12
i was of course referring to those '80s nz assembled regas that were fitted with linn basik arms
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Post by cartridgeguyonline on Aug 5, 2019 12:34:51 GMT 12
Table, cartridge then arm for me. Speakers to match room, amp suitable for inputs and speaker driving ability.
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Post by belbo on Aug 27, 2019 23:00:43 GMT 12
Nobody can do it exactly like the Japanese.
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Post by SL1210 on Sept 10, 2019 17:30:22 GMT 12
How interesting! I would have have thought a transducer would make a large difference. My ranking: Turntable Cartridge Phono Stage Arm.
I am still a bit bitter about an Origin Live arm I bought. And not a lightweight either - I got the latest model Encounter. Crap. Not only was it inferior to my Jelco I actually preferred the stock Technics arm.
However I may change my priorities a little, here's what happened. I had a lovely Charisma Audio Ref-1 Cartridge. Then what does my Butterfingers do? He knocks the stylus off! I don't know that yet and think something else is the problem. I think something else is the problem and it takes me a couple of weeks to diagnose the problem. Anyway for present purposes think money. (1) Cartridges are stupidly expensive (2) They will only get you a thousand hours or so. So an LP costs you about $1.00. (3) You can get less than the normal lifespan for a number of reasons - poor setup (eg VTA) or clumsiness.
So maybe it is financially better to prioritize other components. So for me as a practical way of looking at things my priority is
Turntable Phono Stage Cartridge Arm
I posted on another thread my tale of woe of stuffing up my Charisma Audio Ref-1. A member mentioned insurance. Insurance? A light went on and I made a claim. It has just been accepted. So now I have some dosh to buy another cart. Will report fully later in that thread. But for present purposes my point is that as lovely as some cartridge are, they are scary.
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Etsuro Urushi Sept 11, 2019 20:23:26 GMT 12
via mobile - Edited Sept 11, 2019 20:31:35 GMT 12 by colinf
Post by colinf on Sept 11, 2019 20:23:26 GMT 12
I agree, some cartridges are quite scary to set up and use, especially the naked, non-changeable stylus ones. I decided that my latest cartridge should be easy to repair, so it has a replaceable stylus. I got scared when I knocked off the stylus on my Kiseki in the late 90s and the repair wasn’t the same quality, and didn’t work properly either. I now put the stylus guard on after I’ve finished listening, should I knock it or something when I’m not using it.
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