Post by Owen Y on Apr 27, 2017 9:49:48 GMT 12
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Post by guitardude on Apr 27, 2017 10:47:09 GMT 12
Hard to disagree with many of the choices on those lists but as you say very US centric. For my money i'd have to add a Naim and a Leak stereo 20 at the very least. In terms of NZ made surely the PMF2150b would have to rate a mention ?
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Post by michaelw on Apr 27, 2017 16:44:08 GMT 12
nix on naim , they were horrid back in the 70s/80s/90s
flat, one-dimensional, transistory but punchy and toe-tapping.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2017 17:29:21 GMT 12
nix on naim , they were horrid back in the 70s/80s/90s flat, one-dimensional, transistory but punchy and toe-tapping. So, other than horridly expensive, what are they now? 
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Post by michaelw on Apr 27, 2017 18:28:08 GMT 12
better !
the climb from mediocrity started in 2000 with the nap500 power amplifier.
the same year company founder julian vereker died.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2017 18:34:56 GMT 12
I see... Haven't made it all the way through the article yet, but thus far no mention of Bryston? Krell and Bryston being top contenders for my next amp. Second hand. Very second hand. Third or fourth even!?
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Post by deano1974 on Apr 27, 2017 22:00:12 GMT 12
Get a krell i love mine and when she is back from the doctors she will once rock again, she has had the flu but hopefully fingers crossed and a little help from doctor Maloney she will be released back into my caring arms, ohhhh how ive missed her 😢
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Post by michaelw on Apr 27, 2017 22:06:34 GMT 12
not a fan of bryston.
do like krell, what do you have deano ?
i've got a little kav-300i integrated.
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Post by deano1974 on Apr 28, 2017 5:27:41 GMT 12
Yeah same here never quite liked the brystons, I have a Ksa50s, 😀I havent heard the 300i but im sure she is great as she is a Krell after all lol
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Post by guitardude on Apr 28, 2017 8:47:43 GMT 12
Hey MW,
That KAV300i is an absolute cracker, its what i've been advised Mr Heathen to buy. Cant quite agree with you on Naim though. Though not to my taste, for a while there in the mid 80's they were the amp du jour, hard to get away from magazines, retailers and audio guys recommending them. Also seem to be now very collectable in their earlier guises. In terms of sonic worthiness theres a few on those lists I'd take issue with: GAS Ampzilla I didn't find to be a particularly inspiring listen and as for the Plinius integrated: No thanks.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2017 10:05:42 GMT 12
i've got a little kav-300i integrated. This is where I think I'll land. Commonly pop on Steronet Classifieds for around a K... What's your beef with Bryston, out of curiosity?
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Post by deano1974 on Apr 28, 2017 10:10:55 GMT 12
i've got a little kav-300i integrated. This is where I think I'll land. Commonly pop on Steronet Classifieds for around a K... What's your beef with Bryston, out of curiosity? Bryston it all Depends on model they can sound a little thin sometimes and i know a few people that have issues with them
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Post by michaelw on Apr 28, 2017 10:46:30 GMT 12
they sound blah.
not bad
not good
just blah... sleepy time
there was a funny krell on tardme last week...
branded k300i, not kav-300i
it had the horizontal krell logo, not the rocketship, so was a second gen or later.
but it had a first gen clickity clack remote.
research shows it was a japanese market variant.
don't know why it got an abbreviated nametag...
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Post by deano1974 on Apr 28, 2017 10:58:22 GMT 12
Lol
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Post by sub on Apr 28, 2017 12:32:41 GMT 12
there was a funny krell on tardme last week... branded k300i, not kav-300i it had the horizontal krell logo, not the rocketship, so was a second gen or later. but it had a first gen clickity clack remote. research shows it was a japanese market variant. don't know why it got an abbreviated nametag... It sold for $1265 to a bidder called Kingkong!
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Post by Owen Y on Apr 28, 2017 16:31:40 GMT 12
Bryston amps - perhaps you need to partner Shahinians with them? I seem to recall that was common match-up back when.
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Post by michaelw on Apr 28, 2017 17:06:19 GMT 12
that's a new one...
locally shahs are more commonly associated with with plinius and lately, aussie dynavectors.
bryston is used as a reference by magnepan.
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Post by Owen Y on Apr 28, 2017 17:18:45 GMT 12
I remember Soundline demo-ing with both. A Denco connection IIRC? Richard Shahinian also like SS.
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Post by guitardude on May 1, 2017 10:10:56 GMT 12
I don't ever recall having seen Brystons at Soundline in CHCH. Bedini and Accuphase were the SS lines I recall them having. I thought I read somewhere that Bryston were affiliated with PMC, and Magnepan with ARC ?
The last Brystons I remember seeing about were in the 80's, don't ask me where, and from memory they were brown with cream lettering ? No integrateds just separate pre power combinations.
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Post by Owen Y on May 1, 2017 10:54:00 GMT 12
I don't ever recall having seen Brystons at Soundline in CHCH. Bedini and Accuphase were the SS lines I recall them having. I thought I read somewhere that Bryston were affiliated with PMC, and Magnepan with ARC ? The last Brystons I remember seeing about were in the 80's, don't ask me where, and from memory they were brown with cream lettering ? No integrateds just separate pre power combinations. You could v well be correct, my memory is fading
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Post by chilli on May 5, 2017 23:31:23 GMT 12
Sold my 8150 very recently. Very sad to see it go. It was amazing. Made beautiful music and never put a wrong step since I bought it. Ran it with a transformer volume control and it sounded great too. Now what do I do with the tvc now? It was a very versatile amp, being able to drive it with a HT receiver or a preamp, or in my case a volume control, as well as being able to drive more amplification as well. Still, a great amp! On the old audioenz forum we did an experiment with Gary M and figured out what voltage/watts we were using and at loudest was still less than 5 watts.
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Post by Citroen on May 6, 2017 15:03:08 GMT 12
Hey MW, That KAV300i is an absolute cracker, its what i've been advised Mr Heathen to buy. Cant quite agree with you on Naim though. Though not to my taste, for a while there in the mid 80's they were the amp du jour, hard to get away from magazines, retailers and audio guys recommending them. Also seem to be now very collectable in their earlier guises. In terms of sonic worthiness theres a few on those lists I'd take issue with: GAS Ampzilla I didn't find to be a particularly inspiring listen and as for the Plinius integrated: No thanks. Oi!  Sold my 8150 very recently. Very sad to see it go. It was amazing. Made beautiful music and never put a wrong step since I bought it. Ran it with a transformer volume control and it sounded great too. Now what do I do with the tvc now? It was a very versatile amp, being able to drive it with a HT receiver or a preamp, or in my case a volume control, as well as being able to drive more amplification as well. Still, a great amp! On the old audioenz forum we did an experiment with Gary M and figured out what voltage/watts we were using and at loudest was still less than 5 watts. I'm with chilli on this one. I'm keeping mine as a back up amp. It performed remarkably well with Magnepan 1.6 and ML Summits.
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Post by Owen Y on May 8, 2017 9:34:10 GMT 12
On the old audioenz forum we did an experiment with Gary M and figured out what voltage/watts we were using and at loudest was still less than 5 watts. Indeed - welcome chilli... This calculator is handy for telling you what average watts is actually required for your spkrs & listening room. So, 5Wpc with medium sensitivity spkrs (say 86-87dB/W), will give you LOUD average SPLs at 3.5m or so listening distance. Always remember that your amp should have say another 10x (20dB) extra Wpc in reserve to cope with dynamic swings - depending on type of music, Jazz less maybe, classical music definitely required. So, 50wpc maybe, would be good in this instance.
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Post by guitardude on May 8, 2017 14:05:04 GMT 12
Welcome along Chilli,
I shall pray for you and Citroen in your darkness.
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Post by Citroen on May 8, 2017 20:05:47 GMT 12
Welcome along Chilli, I shall pray for you and Citroen in your darkness. I don't need your prayers. I'm already enlightened. I worship the god of Pliny 
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Post by guitardude on May 9, 2017 9:25:25 GMT 12
Haven't tried that one Citroen, hope its a bit more full and flavoursome than the plinius integrated variety.
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Post by Citroen on May 9, 2017 16:52:03 GMT 12
That's fighting talk guitardude!  I find the Plinius 8150 very full and flavoursome, maybe at times too flavoured. The Plinius 9200 I very much disliked. That needed more full and flavoursome sound.
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Post by michaelw on May 9, 2017 17:16:11 GMT 12
i concur with the above
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Post by guitardude on May 10, 2017 10:17:57 GMT 12
I shall remain as a voice in the wilderness then, wouldn't have one as a gift....
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Post by chilli on May 10, 2017 20:34:17 GMT 12
Thanks for the welcome! You guys are a crack up. But seriously, the 8150 is a good one. 2 watts in class A man. 😅
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