Post by sub on Apr 18, 2017 17:32:55 GMT 12
Well, doesn't happen that often, but on today's shopping trip visited two of our local Opp Shops and scored the following -
Beethoven, 9 Symphonies, Karajan, 8 LPs in box set, DGG 2721 055, except for a bit of foxing on the cover of the booklet, almost mint -$2!
All the following were $1 each, each carefully checked, and at the worst a couple will need cleaning on my nitty gritty RCM.
The Manhattan Transfer, "Vocalese", Atlantic 81266-1
Bozz Scaggs, "Down two then left", CBS JC 34729
Linda Ronstadt, ""What's New" with the Nelson Riddle Orchestra, Asylum 60260-1 (been on the look out for this for years, had it on cassette many moons ago)
Stan Kenton, "The jazz compositions of ", Creative World ST1078
Humphrey Lyttleton, "Take it from the top", a dedication to Duke Ellington, Black Lion BLP 12134
Tommy Dorsey & his orchestra, "What'll I do" with vocals by Frank Sinatra, RCA APL 1-0497
Louis Armstrong, "Satch at his very best", Score SCO 8975
Woody Herman, "Jazz", Fabrio Editori GDJ 03 S.A.I.E (The album cover commentary is written in French)
Benny Goodman, "Best of", RCA Victor LSP 4005 (e), a little damage on the bottom L corner of the cover but record mint
Woody Herman & the Herd, "Blowin up a storm", Liberty SLYL-833,322, but made in nz by Festival
Benny Goodman, "Live at Carnegie Hall - 40th anniversary concert", double album, London SAH 6401/1 & 2.
Benny Goodman, "The kingdom of swing", RCA Camden ACM 1-810.
There were several other interesting albums in the bin as well, but too marked/scratched for me to buy, so was I
was disappointed to have to leave them behind, especially the double album of Bennny Goodman's 1938 Carnegie concert!
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Post by Citroen on Apr 18, 2017 17:48:06 GMT 12
The perks of living in the far north?
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Post by Owen Y on Apr 18, 2017 21:12:59 GMT 12
Good haul! The imported pressings, even better. The '77 B'hoven symphonies box set is regarded as at least as good as v Karajan/BPO's earlier '62 versions, but maybe with better sound. I have a German '77 box, but only a NZ, fairly well played used '62 set. It's been a while, but I mainly recall that v Karajan plays the Pastoral fast both times - fast for me anyway - IMVHO. What's New, of course, is real nice. And Louis Armstrong I pretty much always enjoy, esp early stuff. well done.
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Post by sub on Apr 18, 2017 21:38:37 GMT 12
The perks of living in the far north? And also our selection of awesome beaches, usually desterted or semi-deserted, around Doubtless Bay! we tend to grocery shop once a fortnight, an hour's drive to Kerikeri, mostly, where there are two op shops and one 2nd hand store selling LPs. Usually there is nothing to be found. The Hospice shop seems to have an LP "expert" among their volunteers, and they have a box of goodies marked from $5 to $20 each (there is a lovely one featuring Billie Holliday at $25, but too pricy for me), but several large boxes marked $2 each, and I rummage through the usual dross for an occasional prize. the St John's store sells LPs for .50c each, and at that price I take the occasional risk, but again seldom do I find a prize. the 2nd hand store sells them for $1 each, and again pickings are usually slim, but today there was a fresh lot of jazz, presumably from someone's collection, hence my prizes listed in my OP once in a blue moon we shop in Kaitaia, where there are two op shops selling LPs - Hospice at $1 each and Sallies at 4 for a $1. Stock seems static, but once in a while I win a prize. Have bought about 15 DGG European pressings over the past year, all virtually mint, at the Sallies, plus the odd classic pop/rock. It it could be cheaper, fuel wise, to shop locally at the Coopers Beach shops - 4square and a fantastic butcher's shop, as well as chemist and liquor store (there is even a $2 shop just opened up!), but then it wouldn't be a day out! About twice a year we travel to Tauranga and we stop off at opp shops along the way, but find more and more op shops have stopped selling LPs, I under stand that is because they are left with ever swelling boxes of dross!
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Post by sub on Apr 19, 2017 12:06:06 GMT 12
Good haul! The imported pressings, even better. The '77 B'hoven symphonies box set is regarded as at least as good as v Karajan/BPO's earlier '62 versions, but maybe with better sound. I have a German '77 box, but only a NZ, fairly well played used '62 set. It's been a while, but I mainly recall that v Karajan plays the Pastoral fast both times - fast for me anyway - IMVHO. What's New, of course, is real nice. Hi Owen, yes, it is the 77 boxed set and a German pressing. Had been sitting in the $2 box for several months, but had always assumed I would be charged $16 as it contained 8 LPs. Yesterday the shop manager walked by so I asked her "how much for this?", and she said $2! Immediate purchase. with this box set I now have six versions of the 9th symphony! Haven't listened to this one yet, but my all time favourite is the 1972 issue Solti/Chicago SO/Decca 6BB1/2. Had my copy since about 1973, and was played many times on my old, and first TT, Dual 1219, and is a bit noisy now. also have - 1959 Munch/Boston SO, RCA Camden CCV 5021; 1962 Karajan/Berlin PO, DGG 2535 349; 1963 Karajan/Berlin PO, two album box Symphonies 8 & 9, DGG 138807 (presumably the same as the 1962 recording?); 1979 Jochum/London SO, two album set Symphonies 8 & 9, EMI Angel SAN 9103/4, a NZ pressing. re the 9th, I have a bit of a novelty, a 1978 issue by M&K Realtime, RT 112, Mitzelfelt/Los Angeles SO, of the 4th movement recorded direct to disc. Sounds rather nice, but not as good as the Solti. re the Pastoral, Symphony 6, haven't listened to the Karajan one yet, but I have - 1978 Jochum/London SO, EMI Eminence WI 9220, but a World Record Club re-issue, that seems to be pressed in UK? 1979 Boult/London PO, EMI ASD 3456, a NZ pressing. my favourite is the Boult rendition, just the right tempo to my ears.
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Post by Graham on Apr 19, 2017 13:13:53 GMT 12
I have the 1977 DGG Karajan boxed set also, I think you will find very enjoyable.
Mine came from Real Groovy, can't remember the price but it sure was more than $2.
Will be interested how you think it compares to your other versions.
Cheers
Graham
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Post by Owen Y on Apr 19, 2017 16:02:46 GMT 12
Good to hear your B'hoven thoughts, guys! The Pastoral: I'm not sure if it's the one that you 'grow up with' that often ends up the one that you like, but my 'familiar benchmark' is the Clutyens/BPO version from late 50s - mine is EMI Classics for Pleasure which I got 30+yrs ago. The Jochum too, is highly rated, by Penguin. Correction: I did have the earlier German Karajan Beethoven set (confused by another NZ box with different numbers).... Must compare them. Really, these are all great conductors & orchestras from the 'golden age' of classical recording & touring artists. 
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Post by michaelw on Apr 19, 2017 16:13:50 GMT 12
and that is the bane of most modern opshops. they all seem to have a resident "expert" who really knows zip about records and assumes all versions of a desirable title are worth $$$ ditto to the idiots on tardme. i went to a recent black pates record fair in palmy and the quality of records was appalling. best thing i found was a japanese pressed xrcd24 of james newton howard & friends  
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Post by guitardude on Apr 20, 2017 10:33:40 GMT 12
All This talk of beethovens 6th made me go and dig through the rubble of what used to be my listening room to find my copies !
I too have the Boult on EMI. Bought that one new, NZ pressing. My go to version of the 6th.
Others I have are the Liebowitz/LPO in a readers digest box set of Beethoven symphonies, which I understand is a reissue of another earlier label ?
I also have a Kleiber/LPO version in the Decca mono box set. But haven't had much of a chance to really get to know this one yet.
Have largely given up doing op shops now as I don't have the time or inclination to wade through great piles of filthy unsorted LP's sitting in beer crates on filthy floors. How many copies of Oklahoma, The sound of Music and South Pacific did they make for crying out loud?
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Post by Owen Y on Apr 20, 2017 22:36:54 GMT 12
guitardude - The Decca B'hoven 6th would be Erich Kleiber (1950s?). Both his & son Carlos Kleiber's B'hoven 5th are legendary.
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Post by guitardude on Apr 21, 2017 8:34:33 GMT 12
Hi Owen,
The Erich Kleiber 6th is late 40's I believe, Carlos Kleibers 5th on DG I also have. Not played that for a while but I remember it as being a fairly intense motorcycle ride of a listen. I do have an Erich Kleiber 4th on Decca but haven't played that for ages.
Played the boult again last night, very enjoyable rendition. I also really like Boult doing Elgar, but perhaps that's another conversation ?
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Post by michaelw on Apr 21, 2017 11:16:45 GMT 12
someone say boult/elgar ? rescued from the red cross wrc/emi in quad !   
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Post by Owen Y on Apr 21, 2017 11:55:25 GMT 12
English music/English conductor/English orchestra - should be good.
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Post by michaelw on Apr 21, 2017 13:10:24 GMT 12
world record club pressing = lucky dip
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Post by guitardude on Apr 21, 2017 13:22:28 GMT 12
I have that same copy of the 1st Symphony. I really like his Enigma but sadly only have it as a fairly crappy and worn WRC copy. Would love for that to be reissued. Boult has a real affinity for Elgar I find, perhaps because they both knew each other ? I remember reading something somewhere that Elgar felt that Boult was one of the best interpreters of his work ?
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Post by sub on Apr 21, 2017 16:11:16 GMT 12
Good haul! The imported pressings, even better What's New, of course, is real nice. Fine weather and too many outside chores have kept me from playing LPs, but inside now making quince jelly, so played Linda Ronstand's album, "what's new", to keep me company. oh my, that lady can sing, and of course Nelson Riddle is the consummate arranger, he seems to have the knack of making the arrangements fit the voice, style and range of the singer The record is virtuallly mint and only needed a light clean and it plays almost silently. also have on the shelf albums featuring Nelson Riddle and his orchestra with Kiri Te Kanawa and Frank Sinatra. Must play them again some time soon! always on the look out for albums featuring Nelson.
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Post by sub on Apr 21, 2017 16:16:38 GMT 12
I have the 1977 DGG Karajan boxed set also, I think you will find very enjoyable. Mine came from Real Groovy, can't remember the price but it sure was more than $2. Will be interested how you think it compares to your other versions. Cheers Graham I did start to have a listen to the 6th (Pasoral), and the few notes I heard seem superb, but despite the record looking mint to the eye, it did not respond to my usual damp clean with felt brush and anti static brush. The record was so noisy I stop playing it straight away. Will have to have a thorough clean on my nitty gritty rcm, but with fine weather keeping me busy on outside chores, no time for that right now. Will let you know how it sound later on.
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Post by Owen Y on Apr 21, 2017 16:17:41 GMT 12
Kiri & Nelson Riddle Orch - I've never had the misfortune to stumble across that 
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Post by sub on Apr 21, 2017 16:22:35 GMT 12
I agree, her voice is far too classically trained to make her foray into light jazz enjoyable. But Nelson and his orch give their best shot!
There is a clean copy on sale for $2 at the Kerikeri Hospice op shop!
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Post by michaelw on Apr 21, 2017 19:00:22 GMT 12
haha i remember hearing kiri's jazz (?) album back in colin morris records, welly.
no one in the shop was impressed.
there was a loud chorus of "turn it off !"
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Post by michaelw on Apr 21, 2017 19:04:35 GMT 12
English music/English conductor/English orchestra - should be good. like this ... 
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Post by sub on Apr 28, 2017 16:04:54 GMT 12
Went to Whangarei to pick up my new to me Plinius amp, & visited a couple of op shops not visited for a while.
Four boxed sets, volumes 1 to 4 "Mozart - The Symphonies", two to theee discs in each box. The Florilegium Series on the L'oiseau Lyre label, Academy of Ancient Music, Schroder/Hogwood. Look like they haven't been played. Each box cost $1. Only drawback, Vol 3 is missing one disc - oh well, still a bargain!
Boxed set, Dream of Gerontius, Elgar, LSO, Britten, top Soloists including Pears, Shirley-quirk, Yvonne Minton, etc, World Record Club issue, very clean. Already have a couple of versions, but this one by Britten intrigues me. $1
Boxed set, Mendelssohn "Songs Without Words", Daniel Adni, EMI Gt Britain, $1.50
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Post by guitardude on Apr 28, 2017 16:09:53 GMT 12
That Mozart set is a score. I've a couple of those, certainly paid a lot more than a dollar. Great recordings. From memory he did all those compositions before the age of 12.
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Post by Owen Y on Apr 28, 2017 16:25:16 GMT 12
I agree, those Decca L'Oiseau Lyre issues sound nice - ancient instruments. Always grab them - well rescued 
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Post by sub on May 9, 2017 10:56:59 GMT 12
Latest score - Fiftieth Anniversary - Quintet of the Hot Club of France   Cover and records very tidy, looks like only played a few times. Jazz Vogue label, England, but no date of pressing I can see - two record set of originals on the Ultraphone label from 1934-35. Given dates of the recordings, sounds fine!
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Post by sub on May 10, 2017 16:04:46 GMT 12
Interesting find today. Paid .50c for - Rachmaninov, Piano Concerto's # 4 in G minor, and in G major, Arturo Benedetti Michelangeli piano, Philharmonia Orch, Ettore Gracis conductor.
On Angel 35567, recorded 1957 in London, pressed USA. Has the Matrix #s 2XEA-X-1179/80, which doesn't match the numbers given on the Discogs website, and while Discogs say this was the first recording in stereo of these works, the label (blue) on this record says "Monophonic"!
Front of cover a little faded, but very tidy, and record, if played then only lightly, as cannot see any marks around spindle hole.
Looking forward to playing it after it has been cleaned.
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Post by Owen Y on May 10, 2017 20:56:36 GMT 12
Michelangi's Rach No.4 with Philh O/Gracis - Penguin says, "As a performance...one of the most brilliant piano records ever made."....! rmc001 ?
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Post by rmc001 on May 10, 2017 22:41:41 GMT 12
US pressing and possible mono.. Good find!
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Post by rmc001 on May 10, 2017 22:54:04 GMT 12
haha i remember hearing kiri's jazz (?) album back in colin morris records, welly. no one in the shop was impressed. there was a loud chorus of "turn it off !" In Night At The Opera when after being appointed director(?) Groucho Marx rides a horse carriage circling the opera house and plans a late arrival so that he is sure to miss the entire performance. Groucho says, "Hey you, I told you to slow that nag down! On account of you I nearly heard some then!! Now, once more around the park and drive slowly..!!"
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Post by sub on May 17, 2017 15:56:07 GMT 12
Latest find, a mint - cover and record - copy of Kim Carnes " Mistaken Identity", on EMI America label, "half speed production and mastering by original masterworks", pressed 1981, listening now, lovely silent surface, never heard the original, but this certainly sounds great.  large gif hosting
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