Post by cooksferry on Apr 13, 2019 18:51:53 GMT 12
Here's a wee mystery model for the experts. Small clue, 1.5 Litre 12 cylinder supercharged.
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Post by michaelw on Apr 13, 2019 19:14:48 GMT 12
at a guess... a fiat ? model 806 with the type 406 triple cam, roots supercharged 2x 6 cylinder motor.
180bhp and 149mph
amazing tech
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Post by cooksferry on Apr 13, 2019 20:12:16 GMT 12
bugger, should have hid the Fiat decal. 1/12 scale metal , plastic kit by Protar. The original kit has been reissued recently in all plastic form but my version has metal wheels,body, frame, suspension etc. The nicely done motor is plastic. The rear leaf springs had to be assembled, heated then dipped into oil to give them a blued look. Did a family trip to Italy in 1988 and the one thing on my list was the Protar fiat mephistopheles land speed car from 1924. Bit of a fan of those huge aero engined monsters. That particular model proved extremely difficult to find even in Italy until I eventually tracked one down in a model shop in Rome. The Fiat 806 was an unexpected bonus when we stayed with inlaws near Rapallo(that's Italy, not Auckland). My brother in law took me on a rather hairy drive in an old diesel Fiat one night to a near by town that just happened to have a well stocked model shop. The Protar 806 caught my eye although I really knew nothing about the car. It was an interesting and quite time consuming kit to build as Protar's metal casting are a hard composition that is difficult to file . The Mephistopheles kit is stored in the garage as a retirement build after a 30 plus year wait.
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Post by cooksferry on Apr 13, 2019 20:16:05 GMT 12
Show beside a 1/43 mephistopheles which I think is a Brumn model. If I was to build it now there are a few finishing techniques I would do differently and the paint finish is just too glossy for period realism.
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Post by nakmad on Apr 14, 2019 10:24:11 GMT 12
Always liked those Silk Cut cars.What model is the 917/30? Cooks, it is the Minichamps 1/18 diecast The Silk Cut scheme is a nice livery, even if it is Tobacco sponsorship and not PC these days. One day I will get around to completing my Hasegawa and Tamiya 'Sprint' and 'Le Mans' XJR-8/9 spec XJR-8/9 1/24 models.
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Post by cooksferry on Apr 14, 2019 11:49:19 GMT 12
Always liked those Silk Cut cars.What model is the 917/30? Cooks, it is the Minichamps 1/18 diecast The Silk Cut scheme is a nice livery, even if it is Tobacco sponsorship and not PC these days. One day I will get around to completing my Hasegawa and Tamiya 'Sprint' and 'Le Mans' XJR-8/9 spec XJR-8/9 1/24 models. That's really nice. Good detail and finish. The start of some of the bigger diecasts coming out now has improved vastly from the older Buragos etc. Of course the price has also increased. Nothing for nothing.
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Post by nakmad on Apr 15, 2019 20:33:46 GMT 12
Yep, nothing for nothing indeed!. I have a few Auto-Art die-casts collected over the years and you can see the improvements in fit, finish, and finesse in those models ...accompanied by a matching creep in price too of course.
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Post by michaelw on Apr 15, 2019 20:57:33 GMT 12
i started with those big, clunky 1/18 bburagos then discovered the better detailed 1/43, eg. paul's model art, minichamps, ixos, spark etc. i thought those were great until i accidentally ventured into the world 1/43 resin models by hpi racing, tsm et al.
it's a shame nz doesn't have a really, really good model shop stocking good 1/43s.
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Post by belbo on Apr 15, 2019 21:13:27 GMT 12
bugger, should have hid the Fiat decal. 1/12 scale metal , plastic kit by Protar. The original kit has been reissued recently in all plastic form but my version has metal wheels,body, frame, suspension etc. The nicely done motor is plastic. The rear leaf springs had to be assembled, heated then dipped into oil to give them a blued look. Did a family trip to Italy in 1988 and the one thing on my list was the Protar fiat mephistopheles land speed car from 1924. Bit of a fan of those huge aero engined monsters. That particular model proved extremely difficult to find even in Italy until I eventually tracked one down in a model shop in Rome. The Fiat 806 was an unexpected bonus when we stayed with inlaws near Rapallo(that's Italy, not Auckland). My brother in law took me on a rather hairy drive in an old diesel Fiat one night to a near by town that just happened to have a well stocked model shop. The Protar 806 caught my eye although I really knew nothing about the car. It was an interesting and quite time consuming kit to build as Protar's metal casting are a hard composition that is difficult to file . The Mephistopheles kit is stored in the garage as a retirement build after a 30 plus year wait. Looks fantastic cooksferry !
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Post by cooksferry on Apr 17, 2019 7:39:49 GMT 12
Although most of my kit building was done in the small 1/43 I did venture into some larger size models as per the Fiat 806 above. Unfortunately I don't have any photos but there are a couple of links to manufacturers. First there was Revival Models(Italy) who specialise in 1/20 scale proper GP cars from the 30s to early 60s. When I was building they had two kit ranges for the same car. Top of the line was a metal/plastic version that came with very fine spoked wheels(but not enough spokes ) and a pre painted metal body. The cheaper version was all plastic but still with the same detail. I did the Alfa P3, Auto Union C type and Mercedes W163. The Merc I did in museum style with one side of the body cut away to show the quite extensive detail. Looking at their current catalogue it appears they don't do quite the same range any more. www.revivalinternational.com/The other, even larger models came from Pocher Models, also Italian. Pocher were tied in with a top line model train company and a local department store was managed by a model train enthusiast. Browsing through their toy dept one came I came across the very large sacle. 1/8th, of the 8c 2300 Monza "Muletto" raced by Rudi Caracciola. This impressive kit featured parts in leather, metal, plastic, and brass. There was a working crankshaft and pistons but most entertaining to assemble were the spoked wheels that had around 165 parts in each. Fortunately there was a jig supplied, but you had to find the steady hand and the patience. Once assembled the model was just on half a metre long. I ran out of space for display and it was sold through Fazzaz in Chch. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pocher#Pocher_Classic_Model_ListAlways a glutton for punishment I also got the store to order me in the Pocher Fiat F2, a model of the car that won the French GP in 1907. This model didn't have the huge parts count that the Alfa kit did but was an enjoyable build. Again lack of space to store and display meant that it to eventually left to a new home. Although Pocher no longer makes the classic car kits they can still be found on E Bay and the like. There are also a few cottage industries making super detail parts for them.
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Post by michaelw on Apr 17, 2019 10:54:14 GMT 12
tyco is a name i haven't seen in ages.
they were big in the 60s and 70s with model trains and slot cars.
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Post by cooksferry on Apr 17, 2019 12:34:43 GMT 12
Nice little video that shows the building of a set of Pocher wire wheels.
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Post by cooksferry on Apr 21, 2019 16:20:15 GMT 12
Time to kick off the run down of the 80s and 90s cars.These were all curbside models and built basically as they came in the box. To add a bit of colour all were done with at least a driver figure while a couple mimicked photos in the motoring press. So starting with 1983 and the 126 C3. The engine is reasonably exposed and the rear wing has grown quite large to try and add some down force. 1984 C4.
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Post by cooksferry on Apr 21, 2019 16:27:03 GMT 12
1985 156/85 Albereto
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Post by cooksferry on Apr 21, 2019 16:33:28 GMT 12
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Post by michaelw on Apr 21, 2019 18:53:05 GMT 12
nice detail with the famous 'mo and cap
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Post by cooksferry on May 1, 2019 17:01:35 GMT 12
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Post by michaelw on May 1, 2019 17:10:35 GMT 12
this is a great series ! thanks for sharing the pix
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Post by cooksferry on May 2, 2019 16:41:25 GMT 12
this is a great series ! thanks for sharing the pix Thanks Michael. Been quite enjoyable stirring up some old memories. Unfortunately model building of any sort appears to be yet another of the past times that is slowly vanishing in the digital age. Like this hobby it has become the preserve mainly of older males.
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Post by rmc001 on Jul 31, 2019 10:35:03 GMT 12
I didn't see the Ferrari ones till now - they're great.!
I saw 3 Ferrari formula 1 cars at Hampton Downs a few years ago.
Had to revisit this thread after spotting this:
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Post by cooksferry on Sept 17, 2019 16:42:19 GMT 12
Looks like all of my remaining Ferrari models are away to a new home in the next few months. I've donated them to a new motor sport branch of Transport World here in Invercargill. Nice to find a home for them, far too fragile for post and no takers locally when I tried on TM. Still a few of the factory hand builds left (mainly Alfa Romeo)which I'll probably have another crack on TM next year.
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Post by michaelw on Feb 24, 2024 11:02:53 GMT 12
Zombie thread revival Edit - imgur has changed so playing around with various thumbnail options
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Post by Citroen on Feb 24, 2024 15:05:06 GMT 12
What's changed? It looks the same to me, or do you need to update to the new version?
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Post by michaelw on Feb 24, 2024 17:20:26 GMT 12
New version. A few weeks ago you still had the choice to go back to old, now gone No longer have the option to resize uploads for 15in screen, 19in etc. I'm using the web version, phone app to fiddly for me !
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Post by Citroen on Feb 25, 2024 15:11:21 GMT 12
Ta. Hadn't noticed any change or option. My log in takes me to the same usual screen I normally see.
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