Post by michaelw on Feb 5, 2020 17:10:39 GMT 12
arghhhhhhh
leave concert fm alone and put the yewth stuff online and am !
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Post by Citroen on Feb 5, 2020 17:27:28 GMT 12
Exactly!
I remember fighting for the Concert Programme to be ad free in the 80's.
A sad day indeed...
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Post by neilsan on Feb 5, 2020 17:54:38 GMT 12
Any online petition against this move? Not happy.
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Post by Mike A on Feb 5, 2020 18:32:31 GMT 12
We could start a petition ourselves, just had a quick search and found www.change.org/. Anybody have any experience with this sort of thing? Avaaz might be a little over the top...
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Post by andrewp on Feb 6, 2020 5:32:36 GMT 12
Its all about the money honey...
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Post by Owen Y on Feb 6, 2020 10:07:45 GMT 12
RNZ should be about reaching a broad NZ audience, not primarily a 18-35 yr old audience.
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Post by michaelw on Feb 7, 2020 11:06:56 GMT 12
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Post by andrewp on Feb 7, 2020 11:12:14 GMT 12
There was an interview with a couple of people on RNZ early this morning....theres going to be a stouch for sor sure if they think they can just run rough shodd over their audience.
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Post by mijoh on Feb 7, 2020 22:32:20 GMT 12
RNZ CEO Paul Thompson said “that they need to be thinking 5,10, 15 years ahead, so they need to connect with younger New Zealander’s”. Presumably he means that Concert’s mainly older listeners will be dying off in that time period and RNZ Concert will die with them if they don't change the demographic now! But the news just published yesterday in the UK suggests a more optimistic future for classical music radio: Classical music station BBC Radio 3 posted it’s highest ratings in three years as young people migrate to classical music, while Radio 1, the BBC’s flagship youth station slumped to 8.79 million, the first time in it’s history that it had dropped below 9 million. The decline illustrates the difficulties the BBC faces in it’s pursuit of the under 35’s, the same audience RNZ now wants to target with their new station!
New listening figures showed that BBC Radio 3’s weekly audience rose by 16.4% to 2.13 million in the last 3 months of 2019.I’ve been listening to Radio 3 as I work at my computer and I like what I hear and if the RNZ proposal goes ahead, that and other online classical and jazz stations will be what I will listen to. Does anyone know of a good internet radio for the kitchen! www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/02/06/radio-3-boasts-highest-audience-ratings-three-years-radio-1/ An interesting article by Toby Manhire thespinoff.co.nz/media/07-02-2020/rnz-is-overhauling-its-music-network-and-a-lot-of-people-are-mad-as-hell-about-it/
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Post by michaelw on Feb 7, 2020 23:32:32 GMT 12
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Post by mijoh on Feb 8, 2020 2:17:28 GMT 12
Why are people signing this petition paying up to $30 to do so? I signed the bigger petition you linked to below.
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Post by Owen Y on Feb 8, 2020 11:49:05 GMT 12
You may have heard the Helen Clark has weighed in with her subtle protest.
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Post by Owen Y on Feb 8, 2020 12:59:41 GMT 12
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Post by mijoh on Feb 8, 2020 15:28:37 GMT 12
To rub salt into the wound of losing RNZ Concert to the proposed gutted automated AM service if this plan comes to pass, is that there are only 8 AM transmitters in the network across the entire country compared to the present over 30 Concert FM transmitters which presently cover most towns and cities. So if you live outside the places listed below you won’t receive the service on radio. I expect most of us here are interested in hi-fidelity so won't bother with it anyway. Sorry MichaelW, there's no coverage in Palmy! AM Network Frequencies: Auckland: AM 882 Khz Bay Of Plenty: AM 657 Khz Waikato: AM 1494 Khz Napier: AM 909 Khz Wellington: AM 657 Khz Christchurch: AM 963 Khz Dunedin: AM 900 Khz Southland: AM 1314 Khz .
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Post by jon on Feb 8, 2020 15:53:35 GMT 12
Yes, signed. This is the one I got from Orchestra Wellington
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Post by michaelw on Feb 8, 2020 16:13:47 GMT 12
To rub salt into the wound of losing RNZ Concert to the proposed gutted automated AM service if this plan comes to pass, is that there are only 8 AM transmitters in the network across the entire country compared to the present over 30 Concert FM transmitters which presently cover most towns and cities. So if you live outside the places listed below you won’t receive the service on radio. I expect most of us here are interested in hi-fidelity so won't bother with it anyway. Sorry MichaelW, there's no coverage in Palmy! AM Network Frequencies: Auckland: AM 882 Khz Bay Of Plenty: AM 657 Khz Waikato: AM 1494 Khz Napier: AM 909 Khz Wellington: AM 657 Khz Christchurch: AM 963 Khz Dunedin: AM 900 Khz Southland: AM 1314 Khz .
well that sucks donkey balls
rnz really hasn't thought this through.
i don't know why the small petition mob needs donations, i didn't follow the link
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Post by mijoh on Feb 9, 2020 17:06:09 GMT 12
MichaelW, you could try a simple experiment to see what sort of reception you will get of the RNZ AM network transmitter nearest to you which may be the Wellington one. You will need the supplied AM loop antenna connected to your Marantz tuner which should be rotated to find the best signal. The AM transmitters will be active next week Tuesday to Thursday afternoons and evenings when parliament is in session. Even more salt is rubbed in when you realise that if this poorly thought out plan goes ahead Concert will have to share the AM Network with parliament, so when parliament is in session there will be be no Concert programme on radio!!!
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Post by mijoh on Feb 9, 2020 17:08:47 GMT 12
I think Helen Clark still has some influence on the present cabinet and I’m hopeful that government will intervene in this proposal and give RNZ more capital to have both Concert and Youth radio if it’s needed, which I doubt it is as the 18 - 34 group seems to me to be well covered by commercial radio.
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Post by michaelw on Feb 9, 2020 17:23:54 GMT 12
thanks but i have no desire to listen to AM. there's a local guardband FM station here which broadcasts classical 24/7. it's semi-automated and was broadcasting through some awful quasi-surround matrix. it appears that has stopped and so has signal strength, it's largely unlistenable now back in the day HC and her mob could have setup good public broadcasting with their charter but for the commercial imperative which stuffed everything. tvnz6/7 was rather good while it lasted.
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Post by garym on Feb 10, 2020 10:45:31 GMT 12
Finally Jacinda Ardern has weighed in on this. She doesn't seem happy.
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Post by Owen Y on Feb 10, 2020 11:02:14 GMT 12
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Post by andrewp on Feb 10, 2020 11:20:49 GMT 12
The only reason Cindy has waded into this is the petition and the backlash. I bet you all a boatload of Donalds gold she knew exactly what they were proposing to do!
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Post by Mike A on Feb 10, 2020 16:13:11 GMT 12
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Post by garym on Feb 10, 2020 21:30:19 GMT 12
The most interesting snippet today was that frequency 102MHz has been put aside for 20 years for RNZ to use as a youth music service.
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Post by mijoh on Feb 10, 2020 23:20:04 GMT 12
The most interesting snippet today was that frequency 102MHz has been put aside for 20 years for RNZ to use as a youth music service. Yes, I’d like to hear RNZ CEO Paul Thompson answer the question of why the 102MHz frequency was not considered for youth radio. By hiring ex George FM’s Willy Macalister as Head of Music they now seem to have a clear bias away from Concert programming towards youth radio. Jacinda Ardern said "My frustration here is that I see this beyond a programming decision and into a structural decision." She said when Broadcasting Minister Kris Faafoi was briefed very recently on some of the proposed changes, he expressed concern and one of his clear concerns was over the loss of the FM frequency for Concert. "He explicitly asked for time so that we could see if whether or not there was something we could do to prevent the loss of the FM frequency for Concert. RNZ went ahead and announced this regardless." Of course it's not just about the FM frequency, I want a fully functioning Concert network with presenters and quality programmes, live concerts etc, not shuffling music through an automated playlist as they have proposed!
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Post by mijoh on Feb 12, 2020 3:48:17 GMT 12
RNZ's chief executive has admitted the public broadcaster did not ask for an additional FM frequency for its proposed youth channel before going public with plans to take Concert off FM in favour of the new station.
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Post by michaelw on Feb 12, 2020 9:12:01 GMT 12
it was interesting listening to lisa owen grill her boss yesterday
when asked if rnz manoeuvred the govt into making the 102 offer, he replied they weren't smart enough to do that.
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Post by mijoh on Feb 12, 2020 12:21:16 GMT 12
It’s encouraging that RNZ journalists like Lisa Owen have the editorial independence to probe their boss in this way! It was an interrogation that former Checkpoint journalist Mary Wilson would be proud of!
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Post by Graham on Feb 12, 2020 12:37:06 GMT 12
RNZ's chief executive has admitted the public broadcaster did not ask for an additional FM frequency for its proposed youth channel before going public with plans to take Concert off FM in favour of the new station. What a lightweight tosser. They need a real CEO.
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Post by michaelw on Feb 12, 2020 15:17:42 GMT 12
breaking news - rnz have withdrawn their proposal yah !
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